Transparency & Regulation

[SwiftSpear]

I think PMs should not be logged, nor channels that have not be registered.

I tend to agree. I wouldn't mind having access to traffic information, IE, X sent PM to Y at Z time, but the actual contents of the conversation are private, as per the title "Private Message"

[lurker]

Frankly, I think it's a bit dirty for chanserv to be taking the logs, when it downright refuses to leave, even when the founder tells it to.

[aegis]

Whether to log a channel will be able to be set by the founder, and it will possibly also be optional to make the log public through the web interface (it's good for more than just admin stuffs).

The contents of private messages will not be logged, only the fact the private message occurred (and even this will probably expire quickly).

[LordMatt]

Frankly, I think it's a bit dirty for chanserv to be taking the logs, when it downright refuses to leave, even when the founder tells it to.

If you want chanserv to leave, you can unregister the channel.

[AF]

Chanservs logging of channel messages is violating EU privacy laws, aswell as countless privacy laws specific to individual countries.

The main beef being that nobody is notified that chanserv logs channel messages by either the lobby or chanserv, as such they are unaware of the logging which makes it unlawful.

Aegis has the right frame of mind with his features to allow the logging to be turned on and off according to what the channel founder says, but he must make sure that the client can tell if logging is turned on or off and whether it is public or not, but he has not given details so I cant comment on this any further.

Public channel logs in the mean time would allow for several lobby features to be added, assuming they're in a nice easy to parse format.

[BrainDamage]

Chanservs logging of channel messages is violating EU privacy laws, aswell as countless privacy laws specific to individual countries.

i'm not aware of any law that forbids you to make a copy of public domain content, please link me one

[AF]

private channels are not public domain, especially if they're locked

[tombom]

even outside of legal reasons it's a bit weird and i didn't realise it happened, i thought it was only #main, especially as #main is the only one moderated

[BrainDamage]

private channels are not public domain, especially if they're locked

ah sorry, i didn't get you were speaking about passworded / private channels, then i don't know about privacy laws in such field

[AF]

Its not that the channels are logged, its that nobody is told they're logged. As such it could be termed as unlawful spying in various countries.

[BrainDamage]

Its not that the channels are logged, its that nobody is told they're logged. As such it could be termed as unlawful spying in various countries.

As a user you agree to any information you have entered above being stored in a database. While this information will not be disclosed to any third party without your consent administrators and moderators cannot be held responsible for any hacking attempt that may lead to the data being compromised. Passwords are sent and stored in encoded form. Any personal information such as personal statistics will be kept privately and will not be disclosed to any third party.

it's part the EULA you accepted when you logged in in tasserver the first time, so when you clicked yes you admitted you were informed and accepted the conditions

[AF]

Channels must be explicitly stated and logs of channels must not extend past a certain time period which varies from country to country.

Some countries state that active attempts to make the user aware fo logging must be taken and hiding it in EULA is not enough.

Some countries also demand that when a user asks for any information held about them, they should be given it, so a founder must be able to see the recorded logs for their channel. As far as I know in the UK a minor fee for retrieval charges can be requested.

[lurker]

The way I interpreted 'information you have entered above' was everything you submitted to register.

[LordMatt]

Who cares? No country is going to go after spring for logging channels.

[lurker]

I care more about the 'wtf channels are logged?' factor.

[AF]

This is more about users being enraged than judges and barristers being enraged, a violation of trust.

[KDR_11k]

Who cares? No country is going to go after spring for logging channels.

Nice attitude...

[AF]

Indeed it is more of the users not the government wanting your head on a platter.

So is anything at all going to be done or even suggested?

[Gota]

Im enraged already...

[Tribulexrenamed]

Lol. The people who are mad are probably the people who should be monitored.