Nomic Thread Round Two

[SinbadEV]

For Reference

Nomic is a game about making rules, and trying to cheat the system into having yourself win. Round One ended pretty quickly but I think I've gotten it pretty straightened out now...

Rules for Round 2:

Terms in Context:
Motion: A proposal to add a New Rule or amend or delete a current rule
Static Rules: Rules that cannot be changed within a round
Immutable Rules: Rules that cannot be changed until they are made mutable
Mutable Rules: Rules that can be modified or deleted by a motion
Transmogrify: To amend a rule so that it changes from Immutable to Mutable or from Mutable to Immutable.

Static Rules:

• 001 - Static Rules cannot be changed, deleted or amended (this includes no transmorgification)
• 002 - All posts must follow the general forum rules and the laws of Canada.
• 003 - All new Rules are Mutable
• 004 - A Immutable rule can only be amended by transmogrifying it to a mutable rule by a separate motion.
• 005 - A Immutable or Mutable rule cannot be made into a static rule.

Immutable Rules:

• 101 - The effects of a motion happen when that motion receives votes from three different players
• 102 - SinbadEV is a Judge
• 103 - All Registered Spring Forum members who are not Judges are Players
• 104 - After a Player posts, a Judge must indicate if the Post has been accepted or rejected before that player's posts may be concidered valid again
• 105 - Any invalid posts can be removed from the thread by a Judge at the Judges sole discression
• 106 - Valid posts must contain a motion and/or a vote to accept a motion
• 107 - All new rules are mutable
• 108 - Valid motions do not conflict with existing rules

Mutable Rules:

• 201 - All valid posts must be between 5 and 100 words
• 202 - Valid posts cannot contain [color] tags
• 203 - Valid posts cannot contain [size] tags
• 204 - Valid posts cannot contain [img] tags
• 205 - All accepted valid posts earn the posting player 10 points
• 206 - The game is over when a player reaches 100 points
• 207 - The player with the most valid posts at the end of the game is the winner
• 208 - Valid posts contain fewer then 10 spelling and grammatical errors, and must make sense as English to a Judge

[Michilus_nimbus]

Motion:
"Never gonna give you up" by Rick Astley will be this threads anthem, and will be sang every second thuesday of August by at least the judge. The judge must record the event to add it to this nomics archive.

[SinbadEV]

Michilus_nimbus: Post 272454 Valid
Michilus_nimbus Receives 10 points

Motion 301:

"Never gonna give you up" by Rick Astley will be this threads anthem, and will be sang every second thuesday of August by at least the judge. The judge must record the event to add it to this nomics archive.

Valid, will become accepted if it receives 3 votes.

For the record, the worst penalty a player can take is "Losing" so if a rule causes you to do something you don't want to do all you have to do is say you quit the game.

Game Status:

SinbadEV Judge
Michilus_nimbus Player - 10 points

Motions Awaiting Votes: 301

[manored]

manored and those who vote in favor of this motion will have their valid posts counted as 2 each in the end of the game.

[SinbadEV]

manored: Post 272458 Valid
manored Receives 10 points

Motion 302:

manored and those who vote in favor of this motion will have their valid posts counted as 2 each in the end of the game.

Valid, will become accepted if it receives 3 votes.

Note: rules cannot affect the game retroactively so you will only gain double posts for posts made AFTER this motion is passed.

Game Status:

SinbadEV Judge
Michilus_nimbus Player - 10 points
manored Player - 10 points

Motions Awaiting Votes: 301, 302

[Felix the Cat]

Motion:
Amend Rule 202 to read "Valid posts cannot contain [color] tags. Exception: all posts by a Judge most begin in [color=#FF40FF] and end in [/color]."

[n.b. the color is hot pink.]
[n.b.2. wtf the forumz is broke, Disable BBCode doesn't work :-/, had to modify the motion.]
[n.b.3. fixed it.]

Vote to accept 302.

[SinbadEV]

Felix the Cat: Post 272463 Valid
Felix the Cat Receives 10 points
Vote to accept motion 302 accepted.

Motion 303:

Motion:
Amend Rule 202 to read "Valid posts cannot contain [color] tags. Exception: all posts by a Judge must begin in [ color=#FF40FF] and end in [ /color]."

[n.b. the color is hot pink.]

Valid, will become accepted if it receives 3 votes.

Note: Motion spelling corrected and removed un-needed n.b.s

Odd to tack on this as an exception as by definition the Judge is not a player and I had thought that meant all my posts were invalid... hmmm... looks like I might be able to play after all...

Game Status:

SinbadEV Judge
Michilus_nimbus Player - 10 points
manored Player - 10 points
Felix the Cat Player - 10 points

Motions Awaiting Votes: 301, 303

Motions with one vote: 302

[Felix the Cat]

Vote for 303.

[SinbadEV]

Felix the Cat: Post 272468 invalid
Contains fewer then 5 words per rule 201.

Note: Looks like I'm going to have to work on the inspecific wording of Rule 101 - The effects of a motion happen when that motion receives votes from three different players... I guess you CAN vote for your own motions.

Game Status:

SinbadEV Judge
Michilus_nimbus Player - 10 points
manored Player - 10 points
Felix the Cat Player - 10 points

Motions Awaiting Votes: 301, 303

Motions with one vote: 302

[Felix the Cat]

I vote for motion 303.

[SinbadEV]

Felix the Cat: Post 272474 Valid
Felix the Cat receives 10 points.
Vote for motion 303 accepted.

Game Status:

SinbadEV Judge
Michilus_nimbus Player - 10 points
manored Player - 10 points
Felix the Cat Player - 20 points

Motions Awaiting Votes: 301

Motions with one vote: 302, 303

[Felix the Cat]

Motion:
A Player cannot vote for a Motion that he proposed.

Rules Question:
Are new rules retroactive? I.e. if this motion passed immediately would my vote for 303 disappear?

[SinbadEV]

Felix the Cat: Post 272477 Valid
Felix the Cat Receives 10 points

Motion 304:

A Player cannot vote for a Motion that he proposed.

Valid, will become accepted if it receives 3 votes.


RE: Rules Question:
Are new rules retroactive? I.e. if this motion passed immediately would my vote for 303 disappear?

New rules are not retroactive... you could even vote for this motion if you'd like.

Also note that by my interpretation if you try to vote twice only one of the posts is valid... I'll try to make this clearer next game.

Game Status:

SinbadEV Judge
Michilus_nimbus Player - 10 points
manored Player - 10 points
Felix the Cat Player - 30 points

Motions Awaiting Votes: 301, 304

Motions with one vote: 302, 303

[SinbadEV]

I vote to accept Motion 301.

Motion:
A Post Containing a Motion is not valid if the Posting Player was the last player to make a valid post.

[SinbadEV]

SinbadEV: Post 272480 Valid
Vote for Motion 301 not accepted because SinbadEV is not a Player.

Motion 305

A Post Containing a Motion is not valid if the Posting Player was the last player to make a valid post.

Valid, will become accepted if it receives 3 votes.


Note... I'm not a player so I'm not allowed getting points

Game Status:

SinbadEV Judge
Michilus_nimbus Player - 10 points
manored Player - 10 points
Felix the Cat Player - 30 points

Motions Awaiting Votes: 301, 304, 305

Motions with one vote: 302, 303

[Felix the Cat]

I vote in favor of Motion 304.

Motion:
All posts in this thread are required to contain at least one smiley.

Commentary:
Someone else had better start posting things soon.

[SinbadEV]

Felix the Cat: Post 272486 Valid
Felix the Cat received 10 points
Vote for Motion 304 accepted

Motion 306

All posts in this thread are required to contain at least one smiley.

Valid, will become accepted if it receives 3 votes.

Yeah... I'll need to fix that next game... no fun if you can just hammer the win by being online at the right time.

Game Status:

SinbadEV Judge
Michilus_nimbus Player - 10 points
manored Player - 10 points
Felix the Cat Player - 40 points

Motions Awaiting Votes: 301, 305

Motions with one vote: 302, 303, 304

[SwiftSpear]

I vote in approval of motion 301.

I propose an amendment to rule 206 that shall read: In order to be victorious, a player must reach 100 points, and meet all other victory conditions should they exist.

[SinbadEV]

SwiftSpear: Post 272509 Valid
SwiftSpear received 10 points
Vote for Motion 301 accepted

Motion 307:

I propose an amendment to rule 206 that shall read: In order to be victorious, a player must reach 100 points, and meet all other victory conditions should they exist.

Valid, will become accepted if it receives 3 votes.

Game Status:

SinbadEV Judge
Michilus_nimbus Player - 10 points
manored Player - 10 points
Felix the Cat Player - 40 points
SwiftSpear - 10 points

Motions Awaiting Votes: 305, 306, 307

Motions with one vote: 301, 302, 303, 304

[Felix the Cat]

I vote for motion 307.