Spring and ModDB

[Argh]

ModDB's fixed the Spring Engine listing. Now all projects that wish to list themselves as "games" may do so, on that site. Please let me or SwiftSpear know if you're having any trouble migrating your games to the Spring Engine listing.

Spring engine ModDB page here!

[Argh]

Ah, and not to cause additional controversy, but I don't suppose somebody could get with Smoth, and tell him to edit the comments he posted? They aren't terribly professional- I told everybody what I was going to do, and having done it, I'd really prefer that the mutual poking stopped, this is just trouble for everybody, and we don't need that.

And Swift, if you want a right-sized version of that one render I saw you were using earlier, I will make one, just wait a bit...

[lurker]

Smoth requested a two week ban to get away from the drama on the forum, so he's not exactly able to edit any posts. It does suck that so many people around here are (deliberately or not) mutually antagonistic a lot of the time.

[Argh]

I'm not talking about the Forum post, or Smoth's self-imposed ban.

I'm talking about his comments on ModDB. They're really inappropriate now that this has all been resolved as agreed, imo, and reflect poorly on Spring, imo.

Since he's the poster, I suspect he's the only one who can fix it, unless SwiftSpear is allowed to remove such posts.

[lurker]

He made comments there? Okay, I can bug him about that.

Edit: Is it just the comment on the spring engine page? If he could delete or edit that, wouldn't he have done so to fix that minor typo instead of making a new comment? Then again, I wouldn't call that comment unprofessional in the first place, and it's singular... what comments are you talking about then?

[Argh]

Spring was not made by Wolfe Games.

That's the part that's both confusing and, at this point, irrelevant. Meh, it's not that important, we can just bury it with new comments and move on.

[lurker]

Yes, it is irrelevant and confusing now, but you had me worried about really bad comments. I just don't think smoth has any access to remove them if he ended up stuck with the typo version.

[SwiftSpear]

I don't really care about the comment. It's a moddb page, not a professional resume. As soon as moddb fans start commenting it will look like hell anyways

EVERYONE MIGRATE YOUR GAMES OVER! WOOT!

[edit] Argh: I'd love a fixed image As you can tell I didn't put a huge ammount of time into getting a super amazing image for the banner I do like that banner though, it's just sized so wrong

[Argh]

I'll get you a fixed one as soon as I'm done with my proposal for a new front-page layout... iow, really soon, I'm almost done, finally...

[Argh]

Ok, it's rendering now... had to adjust it a bit, to fit the required area, but it should come out nicely...

[Argh]

Here ya go...

[Gnomre]

What do we have to change/who do we have to bug to have our profiles moved from the old Spring category thing to this one? I know I'd rather not make a new profile, and I'm sure the others in that category feel the same...

[Argh]

If your work is listed as a Mod, and not as a Game, you'll probably have to contact ModDB and have them change that, and change the relationship between your Game and the Engine.

Or you can simply list your work as a "mod" attached to the now-extant Spring Game entry.

Given that SWS, for legal reasons, probably has to be a "total conversion mod" or something like that, you probably want to take the latter route.

[Vadi]

Mutual poking...

[Pxtl]

If your work is listed as a Mod, and not as a Game, you'll probably have to contact ModDB and have them change that, and change the relationship between your Game and the Engine.

Or you can simply list your work as a "mod" attached to the now-extant Spring Game entry.

Given that SWS, for legal reasons, probably has to be a "total conversion mod" or something like that, you probably want to take the latter route.

I'm pretty sure that Lucasfilm allows Star Wars fan-art to be a standalone game as well as mods, as long as they follow the same requirements - (1) free, and (2) doesn't contain any named Star Wars characters.

[Peet]

He was probably thinking of Epic Legions.

[Argh]

No, I'd just forgotten that LucasArts has a different policy

[Saktoth]

Can we fix the little blurb? Firstly because 'Spring is Total Annihilation Total Annihilation and runs Total Annihilation' is the only part that shows up when searching for it (The part that says spring is NOT total annihilation is after the cut). Also 'do' should be 'due'.

[[Krogoth86]]

I'd also change that description "language wise" because except for the last sentence it goes like this:
- Spring is an opensource...
- Spring is in fact...
- Spring is currently...
- The Spring graphics engine...

No good language imo as it sounds very much like an essay from an elementary schoolkid about the last vacation where everything consists of one big list with each sentence beginning in pretty much the same way...

[SinbadEV]

Maybe we can use something like this:

"The Free Open Source Spring RTS Game Engine is a project built around a group of community members and independent development groups. These groups have created, and continue to create, a wide variety of games for this engine demonstrating unique and engaging game-play, innovative balances and tech trees, and fully 3D unit models.

- Feature List

The project has it's roots in the Total Annihilation Modding Scene and our primary code base was developed by the "Swedish Yankspankers". This group, by their own admission, were "programmers not artists" so Spring started as a fan remake of of the Total Annihilation engine packaged with their XTA re-balancing mod. As such there are many game-play elements from Total Annihilation incorporated into the engine and as the support for the old units and models was carried over many old and new Total Annihilation Mods have found new life in the spring engine (Including the old Star Wars and Gundam Total Conversions) along with brand new games.

Because this project has grown from a modding scene for a commercial game the terms "Unit Pack", "Mod", "Mutator" and "Total Conversion" are used by the community to describe games for the engine.

For more information about Spring and games made to be played with it see our official homepage at: http://Spring.Clan-SY.com"