To end the Mediaprohibition: We all´re Pirats!

[PicassoCT]

http://www.spiegel.de/reise/aktuell/0,1 ... 72,00.html

I am sorry that those News are still German-

here a rough Bablefish Translation:

State lawyers no longer want to hunt down small Filesharing

German state lawyers would not like to be executing aides of the music industry. In the past weeks they rejected thousands of charges against users of InterNet exchange stock exchanges. Because to the right owners do not go it into truth around prosecution.

For the music industry, which pursued a deterrence strategy in the past years, the attitude of German punishing pursuers could develop to the problem. Staatwanwaltschaften in Wuppertal and Duisburg obviously refuse determining against users from InterNet exchange stock exchanges to. Thousands of charges were rejected. According to medium reports are not only around announcements of the music industry, but also around such from Pornoanbietern, which proceed in recent time increased against exchange stock exchange users.

The Wuppertaler senior public prosecutor Ralf Meyer "Ruhr message" explained, the procedures "binds worker and costs the taxpayer to much money" according to the newspaper. Determinations are therefore "disproportionate". Axel steel of the chief public prosecutor's office Duesseldorf said: "the way over the public prosecutor's office is selected to come around at person data and demand compensation."

There according to "Heise on-line" did not communicate wolf Baumert, press departmental head of the public prosecutor's office Wuppertal, one is to the view that "the admission of determinations was already disproportionate", "the suspects in the exchange stock exchanges any financial interests pursues." It concerns to the music industry not a punishment of the suspects, "separates around the determination of the user names to make valid around claims for damages or give additional warnings".

"audio video photo picture" quotes the Staatwanwalt in addition with the words, pursuit costs finally the taxpayer to money: "for each inquiry to the Provider we must pay 20 to 50 euro." One proceeds besides quite further against illegal passing on of protected files: "naturally one determines with substantial reproaches like unusually large data sets or when commercial use."

[BlueTemplar]

Good news indeed...
There's still something the MAFIAA can do though : force the ISP's to cut down infringer's internet connection... I hope this will not happen!

[PicassoCT]

Google &Amazone will stop them from emptying the Internet - simply for Selfinterest...

And there are still the good old LAN-ways to share files. Why use Piratbay, when you just hand around H: at School or Work? I am just sorry for all those fellows who get caught up in the last clawing attempts of a phailindustry, that trys to save her ending old world.


Music Industry IQ never recovered from all those drugs in the 90s...

[Caydr]

The idealist in me says this is good, but the realist starts to wonder, is this good or bad for artists? It's true that they get almost nothing from their work, and I would love to see a more fair system, but I don't really see it happening.

What SHOULD be happening is publishers giving a fair amount to their artists, with the cash coming from less forced airtime of the latest garbage. Pay less per song and give us more variety. There's like 100 artists on a given radio station 95% of the time, and 1000 more 5% of the time. Make this 1100 artists 100% of the time with fair distribution, not just the latest emo pandering dumbshit whining about how hard his life is.

Of course it'll never happen, which makes me wonder how artists will get their music out there if the current system is destroyed. It's easy to say, "itunes" or a similar service, but still it's much like telling someone to go into a game store and pick a game. The only thing they have to go by is the advertising, box art, and brief description, rather than a critical analysis like Metacritic or GameRankings provides. Of course they can also get recommendations from friends, but that has the opposite of the desired effect, in that certain music will still be crazy-popular because it panders to your dumbass friends whose parents make them clean their room.

So, in English, what I mean to say is, how will this news lead to a better situation for the people who are getting screwed over far more than the consumer, meaning the artist?

[BlueTemplar]

I doubt that we will end up with a system that is worse for the artists than the current one...

[PicassoCT]

I writ shit and i am way to tired... sorry...- night

[SwiftSpear]

The idealist in me says this is good, but the realist starts to wonder, is this good or bad for artists? It's true that they get almost nothing from their work, and I would love to see a more fair system, but I don't really see it happening.

What SHOULD be happening is publishers giving a fair amount to their artists, with the cash coming from less forced airtime of the latest garbage. Pay less per song and give us more variety. There's like 100 artists on a given radio station 95% of the time, and 1000 more 5% of the time. Make this 1100 artists 100% of the time with fair distribution, not just the latest emo pandering dumbshit whining about how hard his life is.

Of course it'll never happen, which makes me wonder how artists will get their music out there if the current system is destroyed. It's easy to say, "itunes" or a similar service, but still it's much like telling someone to go into a game store and pick a game. The only thing they have to go by is the advertising, box art, and brief description, rather than a critical analysis like Metacritic or GameRankings provides. Of course they can also get recommendations from friends, but that has the opposite of the desired effect, in that certain music will still be crazy-popular because it panders to your dumbass friends whose parents make them clean their room.

So, in English, what I mean to say is, how will this news lead to a better situation for the people who are getting screwed over far more than the consumer, meaning the artist?

It's bad for some artists, but better for society as a whole. Music as an art form isn't going to die, there are billions of people who will do it for free. We may be facing a time in the future where the musical effort is less large scale than it is currently however. Local talent and media sellable material (music for advertisements, movies, video games) however, are becoming a lot more valuable then they used to be, as the global band's ability to sell steadily decreases.

[rattle]

Hallo ich'bin ein Pirats

[Comp1337]

posting in a thread which will be long

[PicassoCT]

ARRrrrh, Comp, Rattle, my Sons, i sometimes think you don´t realize what serious business the Internets is ...

[Comp1337]

ARRrrrh, Comp, Rattle, my Sons, i sometimes think you don´t realize what serious business the Internets is ...

DAD?!??

[KDR_11k]

Supposedly artists don't get much money from sales anyway (hence the number of experiments and free giveaways initiated by artists), they need their concerts to make money and use CDs and radio play as advertising. I don't think artists will suffer too much from piracy, after all they're not getting much less money than if you were using iTunes (thanks to some nice contract terms).

[rattle]

So it's okay to pirate... man I feel a whole lot better now.

[Final]

Radiohead win gg

[Teutooni]

The way I see it, piracy is the product of utterly useless copyright laws. The legal system has not yet responded to the new aspect internet is offering for sharing data.

Present laws work for the 'classical world' where everything needs resources to produce - people won't freely give away stuff with true value. With internet and computers, producing copies of a product requires practically no resources, so giving away copies is free for both the giver and the reciever. Only the designing is necessary anymore.

Experts need to find a way to secure the designer/artist his rightful salary, without the need for selling products. No one in their right mind (disregarding the moral side of the problem) would buy a product they can make themselves with just a few clicks.

I guess internet will become either a strictly controlled environment where all illegal data is removed by the operators, or, a completely free one, where anyone can legally DL anything, with artists/designers getting their pay form advertisements, charity or some more ingenious way.