wow.

[SwiftSpear]

just for fun

watch me

in advance, the movie does not present counter-points at all and it's pretty bias.

Libertarian shmup.

[Zoy64]

i dont care if you dont want to believe in God. I do, and i stand firm in my Christian beliefs. I can be flamed and banned for being a Christian. But do i care? No. I find going to Heaven a priviledge that God has given us because He has given us grace that we dont deserve. So, in short, I'm a Christian and proud.

[Peet]

I can be flamed and banned for being a Christian. But do i care? No.

Uhh...Wut? Yeah, Christians have definitely been oppressed since the beginning. Always. Especially while they spread their teachings all over the world. And became the largest religion on the planet.

Yup definitely gonna get you banned around here.

[SwiftSpear]

I don't have much tolerance for Christians whining that they are being oppressed here...

[Zoombie]

I find it amusing that the biggest group of Christians I talk to on the internet can be found on a writing website I hang out, which has a Christian and Atheist forums, and Christians regularly post in the Atheist forum and the Atheists also post in the Christian forums and the discussion has always been cordial and pleasant, with lots of jokes and good natured ribbing.

I think it's cause we're all writers AND different religious groups, which means we have more in common then most. But it's still amusing.

Also, one of the regular Christian posters had written 2 published erotica and a loooot of trashy romance.

Huh.

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I imagine there are many atheist optimists who believe that we're a bit more than psychotic apes ~_~

Remember how I specifically said "Jackass cynical atheists"?

That doesn't include, say, the optimistic atheists, the humanists, the agnostics and the xio-kin-ko-koiotisasties, which is a religion I just made up.

[Sleksa]

I can be flamed and banned for being a Christian.

Our moderation isnt based on the spanish Inquisition.

i dont care if you dont want to believe in God.

Like your ancestors didnt care if you were a jew or a muslim right? Do you also preach about love and forgiveness like they did,killing, enslaving and whoring people? Christianity is not just about you. The history of christian religion is filled with genocides(Jews, native americans, islamic people or anyone else who wasnt a christian?), supression of people(internal crusades in east europe, france?), betraying friends(sacking of constantinopolis?) and robbery (constantinopolis yet again)

Do you still want to talk about how Christianity is all fun and games and its only their business if they believe in god or not?

Could you also provide me a list of people who have converted to christianity from their own will compared to the amount of people who have been converted to christianity through a sword in the gut?

But do i care? No. I find going to Heaven a priviledge that God has given us because He has given us grace that we dont deserve.

Youre right on the not deserving grace part.

So, in short, I'm a Christian and proud.

Thank you for being a irrogant, dumb fuck who is a proud member of a organization that has killed, enslaved, stolen, and burned and persecuted more people than anyone else in the history. Forgiveness, repentance and modesty is best reserved for gods , not their followers it seems.


(oh right, i am doing a horrible crime of persecuting you now :[ )

[Forboding Angel]

And what religion out there has never had bad things done in it's name?

[Sleksa]

And what religion out there has never had bad things done in it's name?

Saying that others have killed too does not justify your own killings.

[lurker]

Pastafarianism?

[Forboding Angel]

Saying that others have killed too does not justify your own killings.

But somehow it justifies every other religion when they want to throw a stone? That's bullcrap.

Also, side note: My own killings? I have never killed anyone, nor am I a christian so you might wanna jump off your high horse.

[Sleksa]

Saying that others have killed too does not justify your own killings.

But somehow it justifies every other religion when they want to throw a stone? That's bullcrap.

Also, side note: My own killings? I have never killed anyone, nor am I a christian so you might wanna jump off your high horse.

stop listening to the voices inside your head.

The post was initially directed to zoy64, not you.


where did you come to the conclusion that i approve of other religion's history any more than christian history?
Jews and islamists have killed people just as well. But saying that Killing is justified when other people are doing it too is just retarded.

[Forboding Angel]

Oh no, you misunderstood me. I was never saying that it was justified, I was only saying that every religion has been plagued by fanaticism so using it as a catchall "Ur religion iz bad lolz" is crap and misrepresentative of all religions in the world.


^Hopefully that makes sense.

[Michilus_nimbus]

The real problem is the dogmatic acceptance of rules. Stalin was an atheïst, but he still killed millions of people.
I think it's ok to believe in a god. I just hate bastards who want to force their religion unto others. That's the reason why "I'd rather go to hell than worship the Christian god". I don't exclude the possibility of there being some kind of good or bad afterlife (although I really, really doubt it), but if I can't get into the good afterlife because I don't believe, then god is a bastard. I'm not afraid to say this, because 1. I seriously doubt there's a god, and 2. If there really is a god, I'm 100% sure he wouldn't discriminate anyone based on beliefs.
Also, I really can't understand how people can be proud of being religious. It's not like you're special because you believe in a god.

[Forboding Angel]

2. If there really is a god, I'm 100% sure he wouldn't discriminate anyone based on beliefs.

You must be kidding... One of the main purposes of a God is for worship. If you were an all powerful God who created everything, or at the very least were thereason for the human race and/or that the universe is still spinning, I much think you would see it very differently.

[Regret]

One of the main purposes of a God is for worship.

hahaha

[tombom]

2. If there really is a god, I'm 100% sure he wouldn't discriminate anyone based on beliefs.

You must be kidding... One of the main purposes of a God is for worship. If you were an all powerful God who created everything, or at the very least were thereason for the human race and/or that the universe is still spinning, I much think you would see it very differently.

Why would a God behave like a human in this regard?

If somebody can be sent to eternal torment for something done in a tiny amount of time, the God is not just, forgiving or merciful.

[Peet]

And what religion out there has never had bad things done in it's name?

Many young/modern religions- The Bahá'í for example...this is not to say that no individual has ever become overzealous and falsely acted in the name of said religion, but there has never been any organized movement of violence within it.

[SwiftSpear]

And what religion out there has never had bad things done in it's name?

Saying that others have killed too does not justify your own killings.

Every major governmental system, religion, philosophy, or people group is responsible for a certain amount of wrongful deaths usually at the hands of their fanatic fringe. And don't forget, Christianity has been one of the most abused religious movements of all time... IE, for years and years and years it was used as a method of oppression and held little of it's origional purpose or ideology.

[Forboding Angel]

Why would a God behave like a human in this regard?

If somebody can be sent to eternal torment for something done in a tiny amount of time, the God is not just, forgiving or merciful.

Humans have arguably short lifespans. Especially when compared to a god. The point of even having a God is to worship. Whenever you pray to a god that is worship, or do anything that that god requires, it is worship.

Also, you are trying to make a god in human terms,like saying if a human were a god, this is how it should be. Doesn't something about that sound just a wee bit wrong to you? Humans aren't gods, and never will be. Trying to say that a god should use human reasoning is absurd. An all powerful god does not need to be anything like what you think it should be, because it is god, it is all powerful.... I'm sure the thinking patterns would be just a lil bit different... Don't You?

[tombom]

.........

exactly that's what i was trying to say to you!!

and i can still judge his actions on human standards