Modell format

AF · Post by AF » 14 Aug 2005, 17:48

I insist that you look at gnomes work. He succesfulyl built a correlian battlecruiser in SWTA that filled 3/4 of the map. And no the map wasnt 1x1 either, it was Hoth.

jokerr · Post by **jokerr** » 14 Aug 2005, 17:58

has the SY team showed any recent interest in introducing a new model format that has these features? because i think this is one of those high priority things that people would like to see,theyve got a pretty good core game going on here and although we dont need the SY team to create new units and models we could definitely use the support to allow us to create the new models,textures,animations etc with a format that can be directly supported from 3DSMAX,Blender or etc.If you guys have played around with the Glest models you know what I mean,something exactly like that where its straightforward and gives us the ability to manipulate and manage each model alot easier.

AF · Post by AF » 14 Aug 2005, 18:00

Post by **Tim Blokdijk** » 14 Aug 2005, 18:25

Yes, Alantai Firestar that's about it.

Now you only need some imagination about what could be posible if...

AF · Post by AF » 14 Aug 2005, 18:51

If that is so then I suggest you start creating gigalithic models of your own, texturing them, scripting them, and then send us some screenshots. Unless you wanna wait for the new model format

Post by **jcnossen** » 14 Aug 2005, 19:53

SJ said pathfinding didn't work well with big units (i guess only ground units give problems), so extremely large units would be limited to aircraft and............... spiders!!!!:

After seeing the supcom giant spider i was thinking of ways to overcome the pathfinding problems. If we create a special spider type unit that has a set of legs, then the pathfinding problem is replaced by the much simpler find-a-spot-to-put-the-legs-on problem.
This means that it's practically an aircraft except it has legs that need to be put somewhere. In a rare event the spider can't find any space to put down a leg, so he crushes a unit below him :)

Guessmyname · Post by **Guessmyname** » 14 Aug 2005, 22:30

http://www.tauniverse.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31402

Gnomre · Post by **Gnomre** » 14 Aug 2005, 22:39

That's an Imperial Star Destroyer, Alantai

And the engine still has a long way to go before units that big can freely roam. The main thing is better collision detection, though pathfinding at that size is also a fairly large issue.

AF · Post by AF » 15 Aug 2005, 03:08

Sphere collision detection just wont do. Spiders and gigantic units would do better with perpixel, or box based (not 1 box per unit but 1 box per model piece).

Oh and yah it is an imperial star destroyer. I get starwars names mixed up with spacecraft, droids are more my thing...

Warlord Zsinj · Post by **Warlord Zsinj** » 15 Aug 2005, 11:33

And it was made by me, not Gnome

Gnomre · Post by **Gnomre** » 15 Aug 2005, 23:03

But I imported it to 3DO builder, then scaled it up and watched as 3dob puked, and then saved it, and then wrote a quick script, and then made an FBI, and then did everything else required to test it!!

Torrasque · Post by **Torrasque** » 15 Aug 2005, 23:28

It could be cool to have some feedback on the decisisons that are being made.

I'm just curious^^

AF · Post by AF » 16 Aug 2005, 00:25

Torrasque, watch the CVS. The SY's dont tell us of there decisions they just implement them.

Torrasque · Post by **Torrasque** » 16 Aug 2005, 00:33

Alantai Firestar wrote:Torrasque, watch the CVS. The SY's dont tell us of there decisions they just implement them.

I watch it every day^^ (Yeah, I'm a very bored man)

Warlord Zsinj · Post by **Warlord Zsinj** » 16 Aug 2005, 08:53

Remind me again who the people were who brought the paint to michelangelo while he was painting the sistine chapel?

Maelstrom · Post by **Maelstrom** » 16 Aug 2005, 09:10

well in that case we should be thanking the people who built the 3do builder, the people who built your 3d modeler of preference, and others like that. You would be closer to the dead bodies that micallangello modeled his paintings off. their the ones that gave him the images to work with.

Post by **Tim Blokdijk** » 23 Aug 2005, 10:41

Alright as this is a wishlist topic...

Other things that I would like to see:
Support for lights
Camera's
HUD
Destroyable parts on a unit

So you can take that stardestroyer thing from above and add three search lights that scan the ground.
And camera support for the 1st person view, things like a camera display in the HUD that gives a view of things behind and below your ship.
And if the camera can be independently targeted and destroyed by enemy fire it's function is lost until repaired.

TA 3D · Post by **TA 3D** » 14 Sep 2005, 07:02

I say use GMAX. It's free, and the you can have a game pack made for it that allows import/export of the model format. Gas Powered Games will most likely use it for 3rd party mod making for Supreme Commander(they use it already for Dungen seige). ID soft uses it with the Tempest pack for Q2 and Q3. Trainz uses it for content creation. Unreal turnament has a game pack for it.

Heres the features supported:

>extreamly easy to use, and wonderful helpfiles and tutorial
>Bones
>UWV mapping and unrapping
>max script(though some things such as rendering, import/export, nurbs, >are disabled)
>polygone reduction.
>Imports 3ds, dxf
>mesh smothing
>object hiarchy
>key fram animation
>bump, jpeg, tga, png texturing
>single and mutipart textures with lots of tools
>skin controlers(apply mesh to a bone)
>tons of object editing tools, loft, bolean, volume, mesh editing, caping, revolving, skewing, extruding, spline edit, ect...
>patch, tri, and quad meshes, plus cube, shpere, cone, cycylinder, tube, torus, and polygone tools for polycount of object
>And the list goes on......
>And its free....

Though the gamepack part is the the only fickely part as seeing you have to have certin rights and code to be able to make a game pack.

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Modell format