.76b1 has started to BSoD on me (too much)

[Nettogrof]

This happened twice yesterday which is not a good rate for a game to crash the whole OS. At both times bsod said that a 'kmixer.sys' page faulted somehow. I have minidumps of both crashes if anyone cares to look at this. I can't play Spring anymore until something is done.
To my memory .75b2 Spring has at least once maybe twice before yesterday blue screened on me and at both times kmixer.sys was cited as well. Only bit I remember about those times was that the match had gotten well into a second hour of play (possibly third). These last two with .76b1 happened in less than an half hour of play .
The kmixer.sys looks to be a microsoft kernel mode audio mixer and my version of it is 5.2600.2180. Is Spring dabbling here directly with kernel somehow? Seems to be unsafe

XP Sp2
Athlon 3000+ (barton)
1,5G ram
7600GS with 512M (forceware 169.21)
and since at issue seems to be something with sounds:
Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS (latest driver version 02.09.0016 from creative website)

[Satirik]

it's your system's fault not spring google it :"kmixer.sys minidump"

[Nettogrof]

How... "helpful". A google search which provides results of other people having problems with kmixer.sys. And... *insert drumroll* No solution!
Let me reiterate: previous spring versions before .76b1 bsoded grand total of twice in the year I remember playing this. Now .76b1 bsods twice in one day.
It may very well be my system at fault but there's nothing I can do about it! Microsoft seems to have a rather cavalier attitude to little people's problems like this. However, since this kmixer.sys bsod has _only_ ever happened with Spring I'm more likely to think there's something funny with Spring. Take into account that this latest release seems to bsod more often than the previous ones.

[lurker]

Have you used the new settings.exe program? Maybe in simple mode it bumped up the max sounds at once to too high a number for that driver.

[Tobi]

At the same time we can't do anything about it unfortunately, as it's not reproducable.

Besides, that, googling for it quickly shows that it is a driver problem or bad RAM (try memtest86+). (An operating shouldn't be crashable by userspace apps after all, no matter how badly they mess up.)

Also since it seems to be triggered by the kernel audio mixer you may try to disable sound entirely by setting HKEY_CURRENT_USER/Software/SJ/Spring/MaxSounds to 0, if you know how to edit the windows registry.

[Nettogrof]

lurker:
Near as I can tell Audigy 2 should be able to "process up to 64 DirectSound3D audio channels in hardware."(from wikipedia).
I had spring settings at 32.

Tobi:
That would be some mighty funny ram to crash the same game with the same driver each time. And never any other.
-1 for not providing a setting to disable audio in settings!
Also will it really disable audio instead of just not outputting anything to the speakers? Would be funny if it still keeps mixing and crashing...

Would the demo recording help? It would need to probably be "fixed" by hand to play properly but possibly it has the situation or very close to it when the bsod happened.

[lurker]

-1 for not providing a setting to disable audio in settings!
http://spring.clan-sy.com/phpbb/viewtop ... 12&t=13128

Also will it really disable audio instead of just not outputting anything to the speakers? Would be funny if it still keeps mixing and crashing...
As far as I know it will entirely disable it.

[imbaczek]

Nettogrof: keep in mind that "never any other" also applies to you and your computer. it's likely that spring is doing something subtly wrong that makes your OS really troubled, but it's also likely that your box is subtly broken and spring only makes this breakage visible.

I agree that settings should give the possibility of disabling sound altogether.

[LordMatt]

Nettogrof: keep in mind that "never any other" also applies to you and your computer. it's likely that spring is doing something subtly wrong that makes your OS really troubled, but it's also likely that your box is subtly broken and spring only makes this breakage visible.

I agree that settings should give the possibility of disabling sound altogether.

+1 no one else has reported this, so the issue is more likely to be caused by your machine/windows install specifically.

[KDR_11k]

I'd check that soundcard. I know I had a SoundBlaster that gave me BSODs all the time.