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KDR_11k · Post by **KDR_11k** » 17 Dec 2007, 21:21

What kind of question is that? You just make the function return the value 200, that means 200% damage.

bobthedinosaur · Post by **bobthedinosaur** » 17 Dec 2007, 21:37

so

HitByWeaponId(var1posZ,var2posX,id,damage)

var rando

if id == 30 // some weapon that does random damage
(
rando = (Rand( 1, 20 ))*10;
return damage rando; // dis does not make sense
)

KDR_11k · Post by **KDR_11k** » 17 Dec 2007, 22:10

Return takes only one parameter.

return rando;

bobthedinosaur · Post by **bobthedinosaur** » 17 Dec 2007, 22:17

oh, thats what i was confused about, thanks kdr

hamsate · Post by **hamsate** » 19 Dec 2007, 08:02

Argh wrote:I'd suggest, frankly, to start with my "minimal unit" file from NanoBlobs 0.63..

I got the public release version 0.64. Anyways, I looked through some of the scripts for the units and that just confuses me. I only have slight experience with programming, so I can understand parts of it, but I just don't understand. This is probably the next hurdle I have to go through. Anyone supply a tutorial or reference about what all it's about?

Just throwing this question out there, a unit requires a script right?

Rubenes · Post by **Rubenes** » 19 Dec 2007, 08:09

hamsate wrote:
Argh wrote:I'd suggest, frankly, to start with my "minimal unit" file from NanoBlobs 0.63..
I got the public release version 0.64. Anyways, I looked through some of the scripts for the units and that just confuses me. I only have slight experience with programming, so I can understand parts of it, but I just don't understand. This is probably the next hurdle I have to go through. Anyone supply a tutorial or reference about what all it's about?

Just throwing this question out there, a unit requires a script right?

Every unit requires a script, but you can make scripts which do absolutely nothing.

KDR_11k · Post by **KDR_11k** » 19 Dec 2007, 16:21

Note that every script must contain at least one function (even if it's a made-up one) and every function must contain at least one command (even if it's just a return 0 or sleep 1), otherwise Scriptor will screw up.

[Krogoth86] · Post by **[Krogoth86]** » 19 Dec 2007, 19:22

Is it possible to have a unit in multiple classes inside the Armor.txt i.e. the Arm Triton for example could be inside a L2Tank and another Amphibious class? Or does this give some errors / conflicts?

Peet · Post by **Peet** » 19 Dec 2007, 19:34

Nope, multiple armour classes make no logical sense and thus do not work.

[Krogoth86] · Post by **[Krogoth86]** » 19 Dec 2007, 22:51

Damn - I had hoped that this might work as long as you don't create a group for just a single unit (which has the unit's name) as it's said in the wiki. Something like that would have been nifty...

KingRaptor · Post by **KingRaptor** » 20 Dec 2007, 03:13

If a unit has multiple armorclasses it probably just uses the first one in the file or the last one in alphabetical order, not sure which.

kiki · Post by **kiki** » 20 Dec 2007, 03:14

Peet wrote:Nope, multiple armour classes make no logical sense and thus do not work.

ditto

[Krogoth86] · Post by **[Krogoth86]** » 20 Dec 2007, 12:40

lbctech wrote:ditto

Well to my mind this perfectly makes sense as you don't really give one unit an armor class (though this is what's done via the engine) but you define damage groups. If you could define groups rather than have to give every unit just one entry you could ease and clean up the process of damage groups for your weapon entries. For example if you want a fake explosion you put the default value high and add an "ALL" damage group which contains all your units so you don't have to list every category you created. This way you could have several groups like "GROUND", "AIR", "BOATS", "SUBS" and on and on. This makes the weapons code much more clean and easy and it's way faster if you would want to change a damage value (as you now have to change it for all other similar groups too). This is just a "cosmetic" nicety of course but I'd be glad to have this...

This gets more annoying if you want a more complex damage behaviour between your units and so you end up with a lot of groups which isn't very nice...

hamsate · Post by **hamsate** » 20 Dec 2007, 23:19

Rubenes wrote:Every unit requires a script, but you can make scripts which do absolutely nothing.

And so a unit without script won't have animations, correct? It will still be able to just move around? Or does the script have a part in that, too?

SinbadEV · Post by **SinbadEV** » 20 Dec 2007, 23:27

default behavior for the suggested "minimal script" would be to slide along the ground, turn in the direction it needs to shoot and shoot from it's base (I think) or something... basically it will show up and move around enough to know you have the texture and scale right.

Pressure Line · Post by **Pressure Line** » 20 Dec 2007, 23:27

hamsate wrote:
Rubenes wrote:Every unit requires a script, but you can make scripts which do absolutely nothing.
And so a unit without script won't have animations, correct? It will still be able to just move around? Or does the script have a part in that, too?

it will move around (or not) as defined by the unit.fbi file. iirc the BA adv solars have a more or less blank script.

there is a program called 'lazyscripter' that will generate a template script for you from a 3do model, find, download and use if you really cannot be bothered doing a script. but tbh, unless you are actually going to write a proper script you may as well not bother.

kiki · Post by **kiki** » 20 Dec 2007, 23:29

+1 for damage groups. But armor class is different is all I was saying.

bobthedinosaur · Post by **bobthedinosaur** » 21 Dec 2007, 00:32

best resource for scripts is other ones already made, and cut and paste

Dragon45 · Post by **Dragon45** » 21 Dec 2007, 00:49

BOB! :D

and yes bob speak truths.

First cut and paste
Then small bits here and there
Then you know enough to build small script on your own
And then with more practice, build large scripts on your own.

KDR_11k · Post by **KDR_11k** » 21 Dec 2007, 09:26

I used that TA Design guide. It's not perfect though.

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