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Argh
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Post by Argh »

I need some help and advice, pronto.

Basically, it's like this, folks. Yesterday, I was an employee with the Indiana Supreme Court's Judicial Technology Automation Committee (JTAC), working as a Trainer on the electronic Citation and Warning System (eCWS) project. I was responsible for rollouts of this new software, which you can read about in public here, working with a small team of people, being sent around to places all over the state. This job has been keeping me extremely busy lately, which is why you haven't heard much new about PURE- that, and I've gotten to the final stages of cleanup on the Overmind, and I was hoping to start work on the other side before I released anything. Realistically, I no longer have time to complete the other side, at least until I am employed again.

Yesterday, I got fired, over something I thought was fixed. I had a suspended driver's license, from a speeding ticket that was nearly 2 years old. I found out I was suspended a little over two months ago, when I was pulled over because a headlight had gone out in my Volkswagon Beetle (like many Beetles, while it's a good car in most ways... I've had minor electrical problems- I lose a headlight every 6-9 months). When pulled over, the officer ran my license through our Bureau of Motor Vehicles and told me my license was suspended, due to my old speeding ticket, and he gave me a ticket for that.

Needless to say, I knew immediately that this was a big problem- this was just before I'd gotten hired into my new job, and I knew I was going to drive for a living. So, I got my mom to drive me up to the county courthouse where I paid for the old ticket, then I paid all of the fines, etc.- a very considerable amount of money, for somebody of my relatively low means. I was issued with a new driver's license, and pronounced legal.

What I didn't realize, however, was that the story wasn't over yet. Apparently, here in the State of Indiana, if you get two tickets in a 12-month period, you are now automatically given a 90-day suspension. So, for my double-ticket that started this whole chain of events (headlight out, driving while suspended), I was re-suspended. I didn't know, either, because the BMV is supposed to mail notice to you, and my address wasn't up to date, so I never got it. Not that that excuses my ignorance, of course.

Yesterday, while doing my job, I was required to drive to several police headquarters, where I was doing various things as part of my job, and I parked in the absolutely worst spot I could've chosen- some officer's favorite parking spot. He ran my vehicle's plate, then checked against the drivers' licenses associated with that plate... and I came up suspended. He found me, doing my job, and informed me what was up, and that as a professional courtesy, he wouldn't impound my car. Needless to say, I was horrified, and was going to spend today with the the Bureau of Motor Vehicles today, and figure out what to do.

If the story ended there, it would have been one thing. However, Fate was not so kind. The officer, knowing I work for the State, informed my office. Given that I was a contractor, and that I had to drive, I was immediately called and told that I was to surrender all equipment in my possession, and they even wanted to have an employee drive me home from where I was! I demurred on that, telling them that I'd have my parents come and ferry me and my car home (I wasn't about to abandon my car in a town nearly 50 miles from where I live, where there isn't anywhere you can legally park on public streets- it was a college town where practically every street is restricted or a tow zone), but shortly after that phone call, while I was calling the recruiting agency that officially employed me about everything, I was told that I was being fired- just like that. I have no recourse- my contract basically said I could be fired for any reason whatsoever, or none at all. I have no rights through State law, either- Indiana is a "right to work" state- employees have practically zero recourse if they've been terminated. I could get a lawyer, but it'd probably be completely futile, and I don't have any money anyhow.

So, I have no job right now. I got paid for last week, and I'm getting paid for this week- enough to pay the rent and some bills, but that's all. And, because my old job paid poorly, I don't have anything in the way of savings, so I'm probably going to have to get some help from my parents just to survive this. It's a terrible situation.

Where do you guys come into this, besides expressing yourselves about what happened, if you want?

Well, I have enough of PURE built that I can show it off. I've made a decision, and I will release it, so that everybody can see it, today. After that, I'd like to know if there's anything I can do with it that might help me find a new job, in the games industry. It's a long shot, and I know it's probably a waste of my time, but I've never really tried to get into the Industry, and PURE was starting to become really neato, so I'm tempted to put it out there and see what happens. At the very worst, I suck up a day with this on Saturday, when I'm very unlikely to be getting anywhere on the traditional job-hunt front anyhow. I know that many people around here have worked in the Industry at one point or another, or know people who know people... who knows? Maybe this will be a good thing. I have nowhere to go but up at the moment :-)
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Post by Sleksa »

I was told that I was being fired- just like that. I have no recourse- my contract basically said I could be fired for any reason whatsoever, or none at all.
hiring a lawyer will not change these words in the contract propably, so you should start finding a new job :(
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Post by Argh »

hiring a lawyer will not change these words in the contract propably, so you should start finding a new job :(
Yup, that's pretty much my thoughts on that. My folks offered to pay for an initial consultation, but frankly I think it's a waste of time, and might be more harmful than useful- right now, my project manager (my immediate supervisor, basically), who was not the person who fired me, is very unhappy, and very sorry that she lost me- she hugged me last night when I got back to the office, gave me my check, and said, "Greg, go find some other job like this- you're really good at this".

So, I can probably get a Letter of Recommendation from her, which would be a good thing, maybe a vital thing. Starting legal troubles would probably jeopardize that, and it would be futile anyhow- they didn't need cause to terminate me. It could've been over the color of my ties :P

So, no, that's not what I'm doing next.
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Post by Peet »

You could also try appealing personally to your boss, if you fully explain the situation to him it's possible that you might get the position back.
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Post by CarRepairer »

nvm
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Post by Comp1337 »

Thats fucking unbelievable
Good luck on the job hunt mate :(
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Argh
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Post by Argh »

You could also try appealing personally to your boss, if you fully explain the situation to him it's possible that you might get the position back.
Not a chance, I'm afraid. They committed themselves to burning bridges before I could even start getting a word in edgewise. It's a situational thing, for them- if anybody in the media had found out, for example, it would be a major embarrassment. I'm just SOL there- it's not happening.

I'd feel a lot worse if this had happened because I just lousy at doing my job, missed work, made inappropriate statements, etc. It totally wasn't like that. I was doing just fine- too busy to work on PURE, except on weekends, but busy because I was being pushed hard, which is always a good thing.

I was hoping to stay with JTAC for at least the initial rollout of eCWS, and was very excited about how it was going- I kept being given bigger things to do, and my team's probably totally hosed because of this- they were counting on me to get a lot more done yesterday, and today I was supposed to be training a county sherrif's office (for you non-Americans out there, that's a big police agency, with typically over 200 police officers)... so this has been terrible for me, and for the project I was working on- I'm sure that they're in trouble, and there's nothing I can do about it. Working with a small group of very smart, dedicated people like that, one quickly becomes either friends or enemies- I would have any of these people over to my house for dinner, they were all awesome...

Ok, I need to pack up and go home- I went to my folks' place last night, and commiserated with family- I'll get the latest build of PURE up, and then... back to calling recruiters, figuring out exactly how to deal with this in upcoming interviews, etc., etc...
Where I can't help but relate is that your grave situtation is all an unfortunate chain of events beginning with your VW beetle.
LOL... yeah. I have a New Beetle. It's been a good car, in most ways, but the electrical stuff has always been a problem. Mechanically, it's been better than most cars I've owned, though.
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Post by Erom »

Definetely get a rec. from your super, if you can. When shit like this comes down, (and what a string of bad luck - really sorry mate) it's always awesome to be able to prove it was situational and not performance related. A small company will probably just take your explanation and run with it, but a big company will need a letter for their records. I'm sure you already knew all of this though... just wish I had something more useful to write.

If you really intend to use PURE as a portfolio centerpiece* and get into Big Gaming, there might be a local game developers organizations that might give you a better chance than cold-applying to one of the huge studios. Here, in Boston, we have bostonpostmortem (whose server ironically appears to be down today), of course we have a couple of medium-sized names that are local (Harmonix, Turbine, ect.) so that helps kick start the "scene". A cursory google search doesn't show much.

* Also - make sure the rest of the portfolio is ready to be seen, as well. Depending on the position, you'll either need code samples or a more typical art portfolio - concept art, models, ect. Honestly, I'm not an "insider" by any means, and the industry is pretty cutthroat these days, but best of luck to you.

Good luck to ye.
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Post by RogerN »

That's an impressive series of unfortunate events. It'd be comical if it wasn't so tragic :( I find it both amusing and disturbing that your driver's license was suspended for driving with a suspended license... and that the entire series of events was precipitated by a speeding ticket and a broken headlight.
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Post by Comp1337 »

Just read it through again
Does a broken headlight count towards the 2-ticket suspension rule?
Thats real cranky tbh
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Post by Relative »

That's really unfortunate, hope you find work soon. That two strike policy over tickets is a bit harsh.
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Post by Pxtl »

Canned for Christmas. That's cold.
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Post by ianmac »

Have you tride uninploimet? At least in WA after you've worked at a job for a certane amount of time you can get uninploiment for a few weeks.
Allso what part are of the gaming indestry are you wanting to look into? I assume computer games.
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Post by jcnossen »

You could try putting yourself on a remote working site such as odesk.com, but remote working has its drawbacks.. But still, if you need money it might be useful.
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Post by Erom »

Oh, yeah, if you have a university near you with a brain and cognitive sciences or neuroscience department, and you need some cash to get you through the next couple of weeks, try volunteering for behavioural or MRI studies. Sometimes they have experiments that involve nothing scary, just spending 3 hours on a computer doing reaction time experiments or something like that, and they pay anywhere from 20-40 bucks an hour.

One time, while I was between jobs, I did a three-visit series where they A) bought me booze, B) let me plan with a 3-axis motion simulator, C) payed me 30 dollars an hour.

EDIT: Plus, it's good for science! Everyone likes science!
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Post by manored »

Life and law are not fair...
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Post by CarRepairer »

nvm
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Post by Felix the Cat »

It's getting more and more difficult to get into the game industry as time goes on, because there's a lot of people who want to work in the industry.

What are your relevant skills? Can you code C++ well? What formal education have you had in anything relevant to games?

What do you want to work as? Designer? (Not happening, by the way.) Coder? Artist?
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Post by SinbadEV »

Found a cool article on the subject...

http://www.animationarena.com/getting-i ... ustry.html

From what I hear, it's almost as hard for game companies to FIND people as it is to get into the industry, so if you can find some kind of back door (make friends with a developer... you know that "networking" thing...) you have a good chance.

edit: but a common theme is that the stories of modders becoming design team members are few and far between, most game designers go to game designer school or shoehorn themselves into the industry from other related industries (computer engineering/science etc.)
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Post by AF »

Put together a solid portfolio aimed at some section of the games industry you want to go into, and then apply for jobs. Don't go too high up, start at the bottom so you have some experience to tout. Some companies put up hints at what they'd like to see or articles.

If you're going for coding positions make sure you have lots of examples of good clean code specializing in what you want to do. The same for arty stuff.
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