because the fate of the game is usually decided by someone being a noob, whats the point in playing? its very very very very rare to get a large team game full of truely skilled players.Satirik wrote:why don't you quit playing 1v1 ladder and play DSD instead ?flop wrote:why dont you guys just quit playing DSD and play ladder 1v1s instead
spring has no good players
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And this goes back to the lack of skilled players articulated in the first post.flop wrote:because the fate of the game is usually decided by someone being a noob, whats the point in playing? its very very very very rare to get a large team game full of truely skilled players.Satirik wrote:why don't you quit playing 1v1 ladder and play DSD instead ?flop wrote:why dont you guys just quit playing DSD and play ladder 1v1s instead
the 1v1 scene is probably dead cos team games r more fun ?? 1v1 in BA dusnt rilly go passed flash spam
and i know its hard to get a good team in team games especially since DSD attracts drones of noobs
but some people just dont like playing 1v1 Teamwork is as good a skill as gosu micro.. ive yet to see alot of teamwork in Spring theres so much stuff people could do
im not saying im pro by any means but i think spring is more popular for team games (the current mods) than 1v1 and some people just dont enjoy 1v1 (like me)
doesnt make u any noobier if u dont play 1v1 "pros" r off put by the general noobism of team games
but i have had a few good team CA games were both teams have been good players of near equal skill and it was a heated porc free battle in tabula 4v4 for 30 odd mins which ended at mid tier 2
imo stop focus on 1v1 and get good teams together for 2v2 and bigger and u can meet half way with the people who like team games
k thx
every1s like omg 1v1 is for pro's cos the main rts's like starcraft wc3 r 1v1 driven
stuff like dota is 5v5 why cant spring be competitive in teams not in 1v1 ??
get more teamwork and ull get good teams which will develop good players
gg thx bye
and i know its hard to get a good team in team games especially since DSD attracts drones of noobs
but some people just dont like playing 1v1 Teamwork is as good a skill as gosu micro.. ive yet to see alot of teamwork in Spring theres so much stuff people could do
im not saying im pro by any means but i think spring is more popular for team games (the current mods) than 1v1 and some people just dont enjoy 1v1 (like me)
doesnt make u any noobier if u dont play 1v1 "pros" r off put by the general noobism of team games
but i have had a few good team CA games were both teams have been good players of near equal skill and it was a heated porc free battle in tabula 4v4 for 30 odd mins which ended at mid tier 2
imo stop focus on 1v1 and get good teams together for 2v2 and bigger and u can meet half way with the people who like team games
k thx
every1s like omg 1v1 is for pro's cos the main rts's like starcraft wc3 r 1v1 driven
stuff like dota is 5v5 why cant spring be competitive in teams not in 1v1 ??
get more teamwork and ull get good teams which will develop good players
gg thx bye
I played 4 1v1s today, 1 was over after 5 minutes but of the other 3, all 3 went to level 2 and included vehicles, kbot and air battles, 1 game even had a nuke launcher but the game ended just as the missile was ready. A 1v1 never really goes past flash spam when the skill difference is quite large, as the weaker player simply isn't good enough to survive.Otherside wrote:the 1v1 scene is probably dead cos team games r more fun ?? 1v1 in BA dusnt rilly go passed flash spam
1v1 is just plain old harder. It is simply more difficult. A lot of people dont like to be challenged. They'd rather chill out. Others play it for the teamplay aspect, to get good synergy, for that feeling of 'Wow, we really pulled something amazing off there!'. Its a really great feeling when you manage to pull off an amazing strategy that simply wouldnt be possible without good teamwork.
Its more psychology, why and how they play the game. The majority of players arent in it to be good, and dont want to take it that seriously.
If you want good players, pick them out, and train them. Like Ruben, he's turning into a decent player because he has killer instinct, a willingness to learn, and is getting training. But the vast majority of players do not want to be and never will be good players. Cant be bothered putting in the effort.
You know, some people play team sports so they can get good at it, so they can win, beat the opposition. Others just want to get together with their mates (or with a bunch of guys they dont really know, but whom they feel a sense of comradeship with due to the fact they are on the same team with them) and have a bit of fun.
The vast majority of RTS players are in the second category.
edit: andy/heze/sleksa/flopflop/det/lionheart/Demo/noize/saktoth/steven/cabbage/wilsby/ginekolog :DD
Its more psychology, why and how they play the game. The majority of players arent in it to be good, and dont want to take it that seriously.
If you want good players, pick them out, and train them. Like Ruben, he's turning into a decent player because he has killer instinct, a willingness to learn, and is getting training. But the vast majority of players do not want to be and never will be good players. Cant be bothered putting in the effort.
You know, some people play team sports so they can get good at it, so they can win, beat the opposition. Others just want to get together with their mates (or with a bunch of guys they dont really know, but whom they feel a sense of comradeship with due to the fact they are on the same team with them) and have a bit of fun.
The vast majority of RTS players are in the second category.
edit: andy/heze/sleksa/flopflop/det/lionheart/Demo/noize/saktoth/steven/cabbage/wilsby/ginekolog :DD
You sometimes have to wait up to an hour for a CA team game, let alone a 1v1. If its hard to get a BA 1v1 game, imagine how hard it is when your player population is 1/8th the size or less. We're working on it.annoying for you? were the ones who host a game for 2 hours and in that time get maybe 2 players (who we then roll over in 10 minutes)
this was based on me hosting CA last night ~~.
im highly tempted to upload a few games of day vs andy to show your retardation.Otherside wrote:the 1v1 scene is probably dead cos team games r more fun ?? 1v1 in BA dusnt rilly go passed flash spam
Sure there are games where things dont go past flash, but there is a reason for it, for example games in comet. But as you dont even play 1v1s im not sure what to make out of this sentence
And one of the reasons is like andy said, the opposition simply gets crushed by the flash.
The thing is that there are no good players. how many 1v1 good players like day or heze play well in teamgames compared to how many 4v4 dsd fans play well in 1v1 games?imo stop focus on 1v1 and get good teams together for 2v2 and bigger and u can meet half way with the people who like team games
k thx
Do you think there's a reason why 1v1 is favoured over teamgames?every1s like omg 1v1 is for pro's cos the main rts's like starcraft wc3 r 1v1 driven
stuff like dota is 5v5 why cant spring be competitive in teams not in 1v1 ??
get more teamwork and ull get good teams which will develop good players
gg thx bye
dota is closer to deathmatch games than rts, so i wouldnt bring it up in this thread.
Again, how many 4v4 "good teamplayers" do you know who can stand over 10 minutes against people in 1v1 compared to the amount of 1v1'ers who are actually good players in team games too?
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