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I think we've all seen recently how much of a bearing the UN has on presidential decisions...
I feel like as time goes on there's fewer and fewer things that are actually considered fair to be grossed out by. Tell me, is there anything that's actually wrong anymore? Hmm.... rape, murder, and speeding. And mp3s.
I feel like as time goes on there's fewer and fewer things that are actually considered fair to be grossed out by. Tell me, is there anything that's actually wrong anymore? Hmm.... rape, murder, and speeding. And mp3s.
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[K.B.] Napalm Cobra
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What do you mean by that?I think we've all seen recently how much of a bearing the UN has on presidential decisions...
I've been told it already is in certain european countries which shall remain unnamed.I'm honestly scared to think of what will be perfectly OK and acceptable in an other 10 years.
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smokeynseinor
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i dont like homos, i agree 100% with caydr-the idea of some hairy ass guy taking some other guy up the batty is completley disgusting. i dont like them because of what they do (mentioned already) and the way they talk, why the hell do they talk like they have their balls in a vice?
if people want to be gay so be it, just leave people such as myself the hell alone. oh yea atlantai-what the hell could the UN do? everybody knows now that the UN doesnt have the sacks to yell BOOO so what are they going to do against a nuke? access codes? bah what a load of bs, 'tube alloys project' ring a bell?
hit 2 pieces of weapons grade uranium together correctly and thatll give you an access code right between the eyes
if people want to be gay so be it, just leave people such as myself the hell alone. oh yea atlantai-what the hell could the UN do? everybody knows now that the UN doesnt have the sacks to yell BOOO so what are they going to do against a nuke? access codes? bah what a load of bs, 'tube alloys project' ring a bell?
hit 2 pieces of weapons grade uranium together correctly and thatll give you an access code right between the eyes
Cyder... did you know that ten years ago there where homosexsuals? And 100 years before that. At 1000 years before that? They just hid them selve's like the Jewish people in the middle age's. And why? BECAUSE THEY WOULD BE BURNT AT THE STAKE!
Now they have come out of the closet and the people who where gay but hiding it have embraced it. Its because your only going to be happy if you are who you are. I am who i am, whitch is a rather talketive, imaginitve, annying guy. And its great!
Now they have come out of the closet and the people who where gay but hiding it have embraced it. Its because your only going to be happy if you are who you are. I am who i am, whitch is a rather talketive, imaginitve, annying guy. And its great!
*cough cough* the stench fo predjudice is getting out of hand.
Did you know that for hundreds fo years before the 20th century, women couldnt vote, and there position in society was udnermined by a men are better than women thing? You arguement against gays int hat it's onyl ok int he last 10 years sorta suggests that allt he new rights we ahve, allt he thigns that where once OK, btu we realise nwo that they are bad should eb thrown out the window sow e can return to those ufnair predjudiced ways? That sint standing up for what you believe in, thats giving into peer pressure and only standing up for it because thats how it used to be.
I wodner caydr, do you have children, and if so would you like them to be working as soon as they could walk? Hanged for thieving? Would you be happy if they where racists? Recieved physical punishment at school? Got unequal pay because of their social positions?
hy are you so fixated on Gay men as stereotypical pansies who have anal sex? Thats not the only thing they do, soemtimes they dont do that anyways. For one you dont know what you're on about, do you have gay friends? Are you happy with your sexuality? I get the impression that you're insecure and are one of those people whor efuse to think about ti ebcause they think that if they even consider then it means they're gay. You havent a clue what it means, and your preaching as if you knwo the lot.
And dont exagerate, rape murder it's all bad, we will always know that, and its not the same. Do you think if you shake hands wiht a gay man he'll grab hold of you and rape you or soemthing?! I've heard people say that, they're usually the ones who ahve their heads stuck up their own backsides who think they know everything when all they know are stereotypes.
Calling them butt burglars sorta confirms that you have no interest int he facts, you are ignorant caydr, and your every word prooves it,
And smokey Senior? The UN has already shown it does have the balls in soem situations and it doesnt in others, btu if America or russia took their nukes and attempted to launch them, first there's mutually assured destruction, numerous broken atomic treaties they've signed over the last 50 years, The Atomic energy agency which controls their actions and acts as a guide to them (It's this organisation which limits nuclear weapons to 8 coutnries), then there're the economic implications, sanctions, political pressure, military concerns from other countries. An issue as serious as nuclear weaponry isnt going to fare well with organisations such as the UN and would likely mean very big trouble for any coutnries who attempted to use them. I get the impression you like weapons a lot and have a feeble grasp of politics and government. I find you insulting, barbaric and morally outrageous. Dont attempt to give your full support for caydr then suddenly announce that you dont want anything todo with this.
Did you know that for hundreds fo years before the 20th century, women couldnt vote, and there position in society was udnermined by a men are better than women thing? You arguement against gays int hat it's onyl ok int he last 10 years sorta suggests that allt he new rights we ahve, allt he thigns that where once OK, btu we realise nwo that they are bad should eb thrown out the window sow e can return to those ufnair predjudiced ways? That sint standing up for what you believe in, thats giving into peer pressure and only standing up for it because thats how it used to be.
I wodner caydr, do you have children, and if so would you like them to be working as soon as they could walk? Hanged for thieving? Would you be happy if they where racists? Recieved physical punishment at school? Got unequal pay because of their social positions?
hy are you so fixated on Gay men as stereotypical pansies who have anal sex? Thats not the only thing they do, soemtimes they dont do that anyways. For one you dont know what you're on about, do you have gay friends? Are you happy with your sexuality? I get the impression that you're insecure and are one of those people whor efuse to think about ti ebcause they think that if they even consider then it means they're gay. You havent a clue what it means, and your preaching as if you knwo the lot.
And dont exagerate, rape murder it's all bad, we will always know that, and its not the same. Do you think if you shake hands wiht a gay man he'll grab hold of you and rape you or soemthing?! I've heard people say that, they're usually the ones who ahve their heads stuck up their own backsides who think they know everything when all they know are stereotypes.
Calling them butt burglars sorta confirms that you have no interest int he facts, you are ignorant caydr, and your every word prooves it,
Population growth?!?!?! Homosexuals where in existance long before, Eitherway there is no change in population growth as a result fo them being legal or not, and to think so is absurd. Apart from the obvious contradiction further up the paragraph.Besides people like me that is. People who stand up for what they believe is right rather than just sucking up to the greater number. When I was in school, it was an insult to be called gay, and, what, now it's the latest fad? Do you realize that this has happened literally in the last 10 years? For at least 4,000 years of recorded history, homosexuality has been considered something horrifying, something not to be discussed because of what a perverse, disgusting thing it is. And now in the last 10 years people have the gaul to think that they can just flip a switch and say "yeah, actually, we thought about it. Hey, it'll keep the population growth down, right?"
Men humping in the streets while coloured floats go by? I'm sure that'd warrant arrest for indecent exposure just as much as if it where heterosexual sex, you're being horribly biased towards a predjudice again, and special day? Special day?! wtf And ten years ago ti was wrong? I didnt know America was so morally old fashioned. Do parents in america still disown their daughters if they get pregnant out of wedlock? Or is ti somethign that onyl exists in your circle of friends?10 years ago, it was wrong. Now, what have we got? Gay pride parades?? Men humping in the streets while colourful floats go by? What happens if men and women are humping in the streets at any other time? They get arrested! Oh, but these people are gay, and gay people are cool, so they can do whatever they like on their special day. Bleh.
If my sources are correct people murdered eachother and raped eachother thousands of years ago too, even though it was apparently wrong? Just because they do it doesnt mean its right, they're called people with no morality, criminals, and they where thought of badly in those days, even worse nowadays. Would you want to be near a rapist or murderer? Would you shake their hand? How about someone who speeds? Do you download MP3's from filesharing sites and networks? Are you someone who has perfect scrupples? I doubt it, it would be very hard to have that.Tell me, is there anything that's actually wrong anymore? Hmm.... rape, murder, and speeding. And mp3s.
And smokey Senior? The UN has already shown it does have the balls in soem situations and it doesnt in others, btu if America or russia took their nukes and attempted to launch them, first there's mutually assured destruction, numerous broken atomic treaties they've signed over the last 50 years, The Atomic energy agency which controls their actions and acts as a guide to them (It's this organisation which limits nuclear weapons to 8 coutnries), then there're the economic implications, sanctions, political pressure, military concerns from other countries. An issue as serious as nuclear weaponry isnt going to fare well with organisations such as the UN and would likely mean very big trouble for any coutnries who attempted to use them. I get the impression you like weapons a lot and have a feeble grasp of politics and government. I find you insulting, barbaric and morally outrageous. Dont attempt to give your full support for caydr then suddenly announce that you dont want anything todo with this.
"insidious break down of what is right and wrong" ?
Cyder, you must of gone to some crazy school recently to get the idea that getting called Gay is the latest fad. Unless its like "Today is a gay day" which, using the correct terminology is happy. Even so the school i went/go/are going to go to it is an insult to be called gay.
For 4,000 years of history men AND women have treated other men and women with distain, nastiness, violence, ignorance and prejudice. One only has to look in a history book (My favored was The Good Old Days: They where Terrible!) And see how much BETTER the world is today. Its got problems (War, famine, Bush) but all and all life has never been at as high quality for so many people!
Hobo's nowadays have it better then a working man in the eighteen hundreds. Even the capitalist is being slightly less expletive (only slightly). More people are smarter, intelligent, gentle and nice! The police actually police things, rather then taking bribe's. Free speech is at an all time high! Are there rampant sedition law's in any country that any of our forum members going to? NO!
Are there auto de fae's (Old timy fun: Getting the Jew's and niggers and sodomites and heretics and BURNING them! Oh golly! I cant wait to throw rocks at every Jesus hating one of them!) Inquisitions? Witch Hunts? Do we torched prisoners? Nearly every one in the U.N has signed the anti-torches thing. At my school i constantly get badgered by the Amnesty International, and I├óÔé¼Ôäóm not all that perturbed by it!
Well maybe in another 10 years it will be okay to have a woman as our leader! Oh no we cant have that! We should also chuck out medicine, technology, since and go back to the good old way's of stoning sodimites to death. Its okay, they where going to burn in hell anyways, right Cyder?
Cyder, you must of gone to some crazy school recently to get the idea that getting called Gay is the latest fad. Unless its like "Today is a gay day" which, using the correct terminology is happy. Even so the school i went/go/are going to go to it is an insult to be called gay.
For 4,000 years of history men AND women have treated other men and women with distain, nastiness, violence, ignorance and prejudice. One only has to look in a history book (My favored was The Good Old Days: They where Terrible!) And see how much BETTER the world is today. Its got problems (War, famine, Bush) but all and all life has never been at as high quality for so many people!
Hobo's nowadays have it better then a working man in the eighteen hundreds. Even the capitalist is being slightly less expletive (only slightly). More people are smarter, intelligent, gentle and nice! The police actually police things, rather then taking bribe's. Free speech is at an all time high! Are there rampant sedition law's in any country that any of our forum members going to? NO!
Are there auto de fae's (Old timy fun: Getting the Jew's and niggers and sodomites and heretics and BURNING them! Oh golly! I cant wait to throw rocks at every Jesus hating one of them!) Inquisitions? Witch Hunts? Do we torched prisoners? Nearly every one in the U.N has signed the anti-torches thing. At my school i constantly get badgered by the Amnesty International, and I├óÔé¼Ôäóm not all that perturbed by it!
Well maybe in another 10 years it will be okay to have a woman as our leader! Oh no we cant have that! We should also chuck out medicine, technology, since and go back to the good old way's of stoning sodimites to death. Its okay, they where going to burn in hell anyways, right Cyder?
We brittish already had margaret thatcher, among other european countries. American presidents are all stereotypically older white men who have had questionable career actions or actions before or during office of somekind to various extents.
And to tink the sort of barbaric things that went on in most countries hudnreds fo years ago are frowned upon nowadays, any middle aged country would have said that saddam hussein and robert mugabe where doing it on the weak handed side. Though thats not to say they did it for the same reasons and on the same scales.
I'd say more so nowadays we think of moral issues rather than hudnreds and hudnreds of years ago when morality wasnt considered because luxury lifestyles and moner where valued so much higher.
Oh and zoombie, technology is blasphemy and based upon fallacys of the lords logic. We should therefore throw out our technology and persecute those who invented it for witchcraft and occult crimes and heresy.
Cookie anyone?
And to tink the sort of barbaric things that went on in most countries hudnreds fo years ago are frowned upon nowadays, any middle aged country would have said that saddam hussein and robert mugabe where doing it on the weak handed side. Though thats not to say they did it for the same reasons and on the same scales.
I'd say more so nowadays we think of moral issues rather than hudnreds and hudnreds of years ago when morality wasnt considered because luxury lifestyles and moner where valued so much higher.
Oh and zoombie, technology is blasphemy and based upon fallacys of the lords logic. We should therefore throw out our technology and persecute those who invented it for witchcraft and occult crimes and heresy.
Cookie anyone?
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[K.B.] Napalm Cobra
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The UN doesn't have balls, people only follow its rulings if they want to, Iraq II anyone? Although your description of smokey is quite accurate (insulting, barbaric and morally outrageous) you are mistaken on the nukes thing, if someone wants to use them, the UN isn't going to be able to stop them.And smokey Senior? The UN has already shown it does have the balls in soem situations and it doesnt in others, btu if America or russia took their nukes and attempted to launch them, first there's mutually assured destruction, numerous broken atomic treaties they've signed over the last 50 years, The Atomic energy agency which controls their actions and acts as a guide to them (It's this organisation which limits nuclear weapons to 8 coutnries), then there're the economic implications, sanctions, political pressure, military concerns from other countries. An issue as serious as nuclear weaponry isnt going to fare well with organisations such as the UN and would likely mean very big trouble for any coutnries who attempted to use them. I get the impression you like weapons a lot and have a feeble grasp of politics and government. I find you insulting, barbaric and morally outrageous. Dont attempt to give your full support for caydr then suddenly announce that you dont want anything todo with this.
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Thus Alantai apologises for the inconvenience and resumes his fuming rage at caydrs ignorant views and stereotypical aspirations.
Alantai also takes note of Napalms & Smokeys claims of superior coolness and counters with "I'm spiffy!"
Thus Alantai apologises for the inconvenience and resumes his fuming rage at caydrs ignorant views and stereotypical aspirations.
Alantai also takes note of Napalms & Smokeys claims of superior coolness and counters with "I'm spiffy!"
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[K.B.] Napalm Cobra
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Previous post was in reference to this statement made by Alantai Firestar on the subject of nuclear weapon access codes :
As for nuclear war, I bid you farewell on a long damp and dingy road that leads nowhere while the rest of the world moves on. This is a capitalist world that revolves around money, and I fear you know not of how nuclear weapons are controlled. To fire a nuclear weapon you need the full unanimous agreement fo all UN member states, only then will the UN hand over access codes to fire the requested nubmer of missiles at the requested target. The onyl exception to this is N.Korea, which has neither the technology nor the number of nuclear weapons to start a world war.
Uh... yeah, i'll have to read through all that a bit later. The bit about the UN's authority over presidential decisions was a play at the fact that the majority of the world, including the UN council, said basically:
"WTF?! Where'd you get these dubya-emm-dees from, dubya? There's no proof at all, beyond fertilizer which could 'potentially' be turned into a biological weapon - found at farms! Are you completely insane? Have you lost it?"
The UN was against invading Iraq, which has proven to be one of the costliest engagements in recent history, in terms of needless human loss of life as well as Dubya's credibility.
If he wanted to start a war, fine, say "there's all kinds of bad stuff goin down, yo! we gots tah take back teh internets! we gots to blow up sadam!"... not "We have unquestionable proof of WMDs in Iraq" ...to... "We have evidence of possible WMDs in Iraq" ...to... "There could be WMDs in Iraq" ...to... "I had this dream last night, Saddam was poking my daddy in the ear and saying 'we gos das nuke!' " ...to... "Saddam is a dictator! He's a big meanie and I want to liberate Oil... er... I mean, Iraq... from his injustice... of high prices! Er... on human life. You know, the toll and all that, of human life and stuff.. It's our duty as the word's policeman to uproot whatever I have delusions of grandeur about."
I can live with the world being Bush's pawn, if I could just figure out what game he was playing.
"WTF?! Where'd you get these dubya-emm-dees from, dubya? There's no proof at all, beyond fertilizer which could 'potentially' be turned into a biological weapon - found at farms! Are you completely insane? Have you lost it?"
The UN was against invading Iraq, which has proven to be one of the costliest engagements in recent history, in terms of needless human loss of life as well as Dubya's credibility.
If he wanted to start a war, fine, say "there's all kinds of bad stuff goin down, yo! we gots tah take back teh internets! we gots to blow up sadam!"... not "We have unquestionable proof of WMDs in Iraq" ...to... "We have evidence of possible WMDs in Iraq" ...to... "There could be WMDs in Iraq" ...to... "I had this dream last night, Saddam was poking my daddy in the ear and saying 'we gos das nuke!' " ...to... "Saddam is a dictator! He's a big meanie and I want to liberate Oil... er... I mean, Iraq... from his injustice... of high prices! Er... on human life. You know, the toll and all that, of human life and stuff.. It's our duty as the word's policeman to uproot whatever I have delusions of grandeur about."
I can live with the world being Bush's pawn, if I could just figure out what game he was playing.
At least we're in agreement that Iraq was a bad choice of actions. Eitherway he UN wasnt against it, the UN was split, as it where the heads of state who make the UN's mind up, and they where split into against, undecided, and bush's coalition.
Well americas paying the price now, and the worst has yet to come.
Well americas paying the price now, and the worst has yet to come.
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[K.B.] Napalm Cobra
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Because for them thats how it feels it'll be half the time. Or they believe that its true because of religion. Or the religion made it because if the world started it must ahve an end and the end gives it a dramatic ending that makes the religion mroe believable. Death tends to have that effect, so does hope, thats why the cross is such a powerful symbol ebcause it binds them both together, and thats why so many ancient civilisations performed sacrifice (Aztecs where recorded to massacre 40,000 people in 2 queues 2 miles long in a sacrifice extravaganza by spanish observers, soem civilisations almost killed themselves off wiht sacrifice.).
Wow you go on holiday for a week....
Guys,
Let's sort a few things out here. First off Caydr, it would be cool to hear you say, "Jesus loves gays". See I think we've got two things mixed up in this thread. There's same sex sex, which I agree is wrong and then there's people. See it's just a thing that's wrong, but it's a person who has feelings for another person. God loves people, but he doesn't like wrong things.
See here's the issue: does God love people who don't agree with him about what's right and what's wrong? Yes. Emphatically, Yes!
If God didn't love and accept people who don't agree with him about what's right and what's wrong - then he wouldn't love any of us - regardless of creed or colour. But instead he loves all of us - regardless of creed or colour.
Despite the fact we've all got it wrong.
With God, the rule is "love first, ask questions later."
Love to all =)
Munch
Let's sort a few things out here. First off Caydr, it would be cool to hear you say, "Jesus loves gays". See I think we've got two things mixed up in this thread. There's same sex sex, which I agree is wrong and then there's people. See it's just a thing that's wrong, but it's a person who has feelings for another person. God loves people, but he doesn't like wrong things.
See here's the issue: does God love people who don't agree with him about what's right and what's wrong? Yes. Emphatically, Yes!
If God didn't love and accept people who don't agree with him about what's right and what's wrong - then he wouldn't love any of us - regardless of creed or colour. But instead he loves all of us - regardless of creed or colour.
Despite the fact we've all got it wrong.
With God, the rule is "love first, ask questions later."
Love to all =)
Munch