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Pressure Line · Post by **Pressure Line** » 02 Nov 2007, 08:18

yuritch wrote:Well, speaking of tank wheels that will never be seen...

I think the wheels on this one will be seen quite often.

mein gott. that a british pre-ww2 design?

KDR_11k · Post by **KDR_11k** » 02 Nov 2007, 09:09

My first guess was the Russian T-35 (I don't know much about WW2 equipment) but when I looked at pictures I saw that it's the T-28.

yuritch · Post by **yuritch** » 02 Nov 2007, 10:44

Yes, it's the T-28. This one is 1940 model, with L-11 main gun and up to 80mm front armor.
T-35 had 5 turrets, T-28 only had 3. T-28 was even actually useful on the battlefield, unlike T-35.

SpikedHelmet · Post by **SpikedHelmet** » 02 Nov 2007, 13:09

yuritch wrote:Well, speaking of tank wheels that will never be seen...

I think the wheels on this one will be seen quite often.

I think I may just have to make an excuse for us to put the T-28 ingame...

yuritch · Post by **yuritch** » 02 Nov 2007, 15:11

There are mentions of T-28s still in use in 1944, so they even have some reason to be included :) . This thing was a real infantry killing monster, it had 5 DT MGs (my model lacks 2 of them - AA MG on top of main turret and the MG mounted on the back of main turret and pointing backwards, which is very hard/impossible to make work right in Spring anyway).
Finnish army had 7 such tanks by the end of war (they made up 25% of Finnish medium tanks, other 75% being 7 T-34 and 15 Pz.IV), so if someone decides to do Finns, they can use it, too.

rattle · Post by **rattle** » 02 Nov 2007, 15:14

Must take quite long to set the s3o up...

Hm doesn't it require at least four people to effectively use it? Like three gunners and one driver? That's a bit much IMO.

yuritch · Post by **yuritch** » 02 Nov 2007, 15:17

T-28 required no less than 5 people: 1 driver, 2 MG turret operators, 1 main turret loader, 1 main turret aimer/tank commander. That's nothing compared to T-35 though, that one had a crew of 11-13 people (depending on model).
5 people isn't too many for a medium tank, however. T-34-85 had 5 people crew, too.

smoth · Post by **smoth** » 02 Nov 2007, 19:02

I would shit brix if that tank was in s44.

rcdraco · Post by **rcdraco** » 02 Nov 2007, 19:07

I'll agree with smoth on that, very nice tank, though, balance is everything. >_<

KDR_11k · Post by **KDR_11k** » 02 Nov 2007, 20:29

The tank wouldn't be unbalanced because it's a pretty old one and has a weak main gun, it won't make a dent in the armor of the heavier battle tanks while being torn apart easily.

Pressure Line · Post by **Pressure Line** » 03 Nov 2007, 00:19

KDR_11k wrote:The tank wouldn't be unbalanced because it's a pretty old one and has a weak main gun, it won't make a dent in the armor of the heavier battle tanks while being torn apart easily.

add to that its got a max speed of about 10kmh ^__^

KDR_11k · Post by **KDR_11k** » 03 Nov 2007, 09:09

Wasn't that just the T-35? The T-28 is listed as 37km/h on roads, 22 off (compare this to the ~50 listed for the Panther).

yuritch · Post by **yuritch** » 03 Nov 2007, 09:54

T-28 had relatively good speed, it's a 1930s medium tank, not some nearly immobile WW1 monster. It had very poor turning, however - it's length to width ration was just too high. But, because of the same, it could easily cross wide trenches. T-35 wasn't slow either (in fact none of Soviet tanks designed in 1930s were slow), but it had even more problems turning. Of course, no tank from that time could hope to hit anything while firing on the move, they had to stop often in order to shoot, so the effective battlefield speed was no more than 15-20 km/h anyway.

Mooseral · Post by **Mooseral** » 05 Nov 2007, 00:46

Super heavy tanks are cool. They could be added as an element similar to that which they seem to have served, showing up rarely but having that "omgbbqhax" quality to them which is always so amusing.

Argh · Post by **Argh** » 05 Nov 2007, 00:59

The Overmind, which must invest enormous energy to beam its initial assault force through a planetary Shield, uses Expeditionary Vehicles like these as their initial force. Capable of all-terrain travel, the Expeditionary Vehicle combines decent weaponry, heavy armor and a high-powered Shild penetration device, that can open a small hole in a Planetary Shield from below, allowing further devices to be delivered to the Overmind's chosen battlefield.

Oh, and... animating the joints on this thing to achieve a walk-cycle that made physical sense was... interesting. Next time, I'll emulate Nature, instead of doing a three-jointed design with a table-like rest pose

When the Pattern Beams of a construction robot or Factory are insufficient to build the required machinery from local materials quickly enough, multiple BuildTowers can be slaved to the devices, syncing their beams with the device and increasing its productive powers. They may also add their power to Builders or Expeditionary Vehicles attempting to penetrate a Shield to allow buildings to be dropped from orbit.

Warlord Zsinj · Post by **Warlord Zsinj** » 05 Nov 2007, 01:41

The gun there feels a little bit small for that big walking chassis, Argh. Otherwise it looks cool.

rattle · Post by **rattle** » 05 Nov 2007, 02:17

Yeah, they look like toothpicks.

j5mello · Post by **j5mello** » 05 Nov 2007, 03:34

looks to me like there are more mounted ventrally... look near the right rear leg... those look like cannon barrels to me...

Snipawolf · Post by **Snipawolf** » 05 Nov 2007, 03:58

Ass cannons

Mooseral · Post by **Mooseral** » 05 Nov 2007, 04:37

They look like lasers to me; theoretically then, the smaller the barrel, the more focused the beam, the more the power.

It looks like that big gun underneath is supposed to have most of the firepower, though. I suppose then that they both have a 360 degree traverse? and if so, how is the bottom one not going to shoot the legs out, assuming that it is a gun, and not just gangsta exhaust pipes?

That mod looks awesome, though. I look forward to it's release; Have you got a thread about it somewhere?

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