Balanced Annihilation V5.8

Forboding Angel · Post by **Forboding Angel** » 23 Oct 2007, 18:35

Saktoth wrote:You know that all this is going to achieve absolutely nothing, forb. There is no reason to do it, other than to get Sleksa frothing at the mouth (Which isnt a BAD reason...)

Actually when I started I thought it might achieve at least SOMETHING, but at this point I must concede that you are correct that this is only going down the crapper.

Pity. :/

Edit: I have to admit that sleksa frothing at the mouth is rather entertaining tho.

Mr.Frumious · Post by **Mr.Frumious** » 23 Oct 2007, 18:38

I don't think Sleska is trolling. He's just utterly impatient with the constant flood of suggestions that are inappropriate for BA, and so reacts with flames instead of arguments. That's not trolling, that's just being an ill-tempered curmudgeon.

KDR_11k · Post by **KDR_11k** » 23 Oct 2007, 18:39

Seriously, ask Caydr, Tired or whoever else there is, BA isn't meant to change the game design, only tweak the numbers to make it work.

Sleksa · Post by **Sleksa** » 23 Oct 2007, 19:41

Trolling simply for the sake of trolling is what sleksa does. We are not technically trolling, because we have good points, we have the ability to help and instruct, and we have experience concerning what we are talking about.

Wrong.

You do not have good points, you may have the ability to help and instruct but those are not needed and you most certainly lack experience concerning what you talk about.

If you had experience you would not be making suggestions in here, have you ever noticed how much day and andy post in these threads? or noize or anyone else except the noobs and me?

you sir, are a noob, you do not understand the mechanics of the game and you have a false sense of balance and gameplay. and because of that you are trying to fix nonexsistant problems and/or trying to create more problems with your wacky ideas that are not wanted.

I don't think Sleska is trolling. He's just utterly impatient with the constant flood of suggestions that are inappropriate for BA, and so reacts with flames instead of arguments. That's not trolling, that's just being an ill-tempered curmudgeon.

not impatient, just tired of saying the same things for the people for the 20'th time and see that they dont get it even after that.

it would not make any difference if i would say it more politely, on the contrary it would maybe encourage people to post more shit.

DemO · Post by **DemO** » 23 Oct 2007, 19:45

Machiosabre wrote:I dunno i spose they could be faster and made worse in other ways, but that would remove the sort of epicness off it and make it another regular unit, just bigger.
A lot of special units have one of two stats with extreme numbers to make them interesting.

If you check out Forged Alliance for SupCom, they took the previously slow and very high HP galactic colossus and made it faster, gave it more range and much less HP. It seems to be a better unit now following these changes.

Although the Krog is fine. No changes plz:D

smoth · Post by **smoth** » 23 Oct 2007, 20:04

Still, sleksa, I am not and was not rude to you. You do not seem to recall that you and I do agrea about the screaming idiot masses of spring. However, I did not appreciate the manner in which you replied to me on the subject. Frumous gave me a polite response to my unit idea suggestions. I could understand if I came in and said something like add tek 4 or something equally idiotic but I suggested some things because I felt they were helpful. You guys are sitting here needlessly beating the dead horse when we should be talking about adding some more zaz.

Forboding Angel · Post by **Forboding Angel** » 23 Oct 2007, 20:36

Sleksa wrote:BAAAAAAWWWW

Angry Sleksa is angry.

You completely fail to grasp the concept of innovation Sleksa. Ok fine, BA has been balanced to the acceptance of the people working on it, but you haven't done a damn thing with it! Just some numerical values tweaked and thats it. At least Caydr in his own way tried to innovate to some degree, but you guys have done nothing!

Innovation.

Sleksa, you act like you came straight from the tauniverse forums.
Edited^^^^: Cause that is not the way that was supposed to come out.

"HOLY SHIT SOMEONE INNOVATED ON OTA GAMEPLAY! BURN THE HERETIC!"

Sad.

Sleksa · Post by **Sleksa** » 23 Oct 2007, 21:06

tell me what is keeping you from shutting the fuck up and innovating yourself.

rcdraco · Post by **rcdraco** » 23 Oct 2007, 21:07

Get back on track, I think Kbots should have a little more armor and cost.

Sleksa · Post by **Sleksa** » 23 Oct 2007, 21:14

could you also tell me why you came into that conclusion on bots rcdraco?

Forboding Angel · Post by **Forboding Angel** » 23 Oct 2007, 21:44

Sleksa wrote:tell me what is keeping you from shutting the fuck up and innovating yourself.

I did, see funta. How about you?

smoth · Post by **smoth** » 23 Oct 2007, 21:54

Sleksa wrote:tell me what is keeping you from shutting the fuck up and innovating yourself.

strong language isn't going to get me to leave, please tell me what about the ZAZ.

Kharan · Post by **Kharan** » 23 Oct 2007, 21:58

Just get 4 krows or 34 snipers? Seriously, have you tried to stop a Juggernaut? I guess not from the advice. I mean a properly supported Jugg. Your snipers are going to be toast, because he'll get local ground supremacy by using the Jugg and roll the snipers over with tanks. And mobile flak > Krow.

Anyway you look at it, 70% of the cost and 3x the HP of a Krog is pretty far from good balancing.

1v0ry_k1ng · Post by **1v0ry_k1ng** » 23 Oct 2007, 22:06

yes but a properly supported jug means a jugs cost plus the cost of the supporting units. if you have the equivalent cost of what, krows or snipers, you will still win K

Sleksa · Post by **Sleksa** » 23 Oct 2007, 22:10

smoth wrote:
Sleksa wrote:tell me what is keeping you from shutting the fuck up and innovating yourself.
strong language isn't going to get me to leave, please tell me what about the ZAZ.

cows are lazy.

propability of getting ZAZ in; 0%

now get out and make some explosions and show them to noize, because im not going to do them just because you want to

Sleksa wrote:
tell me what is keeping you from shutting the fuck up and innovating yourself.
I did, see funta. How about you?

what if ba doesnt need to innovate?

if people want innovation they will run off to your supercool mod.

if they want ba, they will play ba.

you can cry for innovation

you can cry for x amount of features

you can cry for us to apply your tier 6 concepts

but that will never happen

you have your own mod to play and fuck around with, so please implement all your ideas there instead of here kthx

Forboding Angel · Post by **Forboding Angel** » 23 Oct 2007, 22:21

Sleksa wrote: now get out and make some explosions and show them to noize, because im not going to do them just because you want to

http://youtube.com/watch?v=DGbiKDvSL-8

http://youtube.com/watch?v=U6g9KmhHhQ0

http://youtube.com/watch?v=7SA-goqwc98

http://youtube.com/watch?v=QXZ6MZ_hy6w

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ytrWzMvajVc

Sleksa, I am content with letting you continually embarrass yourself, you sound like a complete idiot.

Thank god you were not one of our ancestors. "We don't need to innovate the wheel, we can carve them just as easily from stone!"

Harbinger · Post by **Harbinger** » 23 Oct 2007, 22:38

If people wanted innovation they would stop playing BA.

1v0ry_k1ng · Post by **1v0ry_k1ng** » 23 Oct 2007, 22:45

Harbinger wrote:If people wanted innovation they would stop playing BA.

read that several times. it says:

1) dont post here, anyone, ever
2) dont try and change/improve BA for the greater good
3) look elsewhere for ZAZ

Sleksa · Post by **Sleksa** » 23 Oct 2007, 22:48

Sleksa, I am content with letting you continually embarrass yourself, you sound like a complete idiot.

Thank god you were not one of our ancestors. "We don't need to innovate the wheel, we can carve them just as easily from stone!"

The latter reference is not in context.

so i think its revision time again

BA's goal is to make a balanced version out of absolute annihilation, nothing more , nothing less

where the fuck do you see the part "balanced annihilation's goal is to become the most fucking best thing ever after jesus, with more fucking explosions and rockets 'n lazers" because i cant see it.

You completely fail to grasp the concept of innovation Sleksa. Ok fine, BA has been balanced to the acceptance of the people working on it, but you haven't done a damn thing with it!

WRONG. you completely fail to grasp the idea and the mindset why ba was made.

please tell me again why do we need to do more?

but you guys have done nothing!

wrong. NOiZE and day have done a excellent job balancing ba IMO, and that is enough for me.

because we have good points, we have the ability to help and instruct, and we have experience concerning what we are talking about.

once again i quote this;

You do not have good points, you have the ability to help and instruct and provide everything we could possibly ever ask for.

BUT THAT IS NOT FUCKING WANTED.

you have some weird desire to change ba into something you want to have, but its not happening, so please go innovate and tweak your own shit instead of ba

what is so hard to understand in this?

i can accept that ba might be outshone and outdone some day , but can you?

1) dont post here, anyone, ever
2) dont try and change/improve BA for the greater good
3) look elsewhere for ZAZ

Forboding Angel · Post by **Forboding Angel** » 23 Oct 2007, 22:56

The latter was sarcasm.

I guess you've describes the exact reasons why people still only play OTA.

Pathetic really.

BTW those vids were to show the effects that could be used.

Ok so you've balanced it to the point that you're happy, why not make it pretty now, besides the fact that you're afraid of injuring your pride. Everything has already been made for you. This is pathetic.

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