Balanced Annihilation V5.8

smoth · Post by **smoth** » 23 Oct 2007, 17:14

nah, just needs more ZAZ!

Mr.Frumious · Post by **Mr.Frumious** » 23 Oct 2007, 17:14

Forb, I'm on your side on the explosiongenerators issue. I think the issue that they were fighting with Smoth about was more about gameplay suggestions, not graphical ones.

Forboding Angel · Post by **Forboding Angel** » 23 Oct 2007, 17:15

God forbid that they add zaz to gameplay

OH NOEZ!

smoth · Post by **smoth** » 23 Oct 2007, 17:15

yeah we have established that they like stagnant gameplay now we are trying to get them to at least like the ZAZ!

tombom · Post by **tombom** » 23 Oct 2007, 17:16

Yeah god forbid the developers of a mod decide how they want the mod to be balanced and play.

smoth · Post by **smoth** » 23 Oct 2007, 17:17

god forbid they add some ZAZ!

Forboding Angel · Post by **Forboding Angel** » 23 Oct 2007, 17:19

tombom wrote:Yeah god forbid the developers of a mod decide how they want the mod to be balanced and play.

Yes, stagnant, we got that part Nao add sum zaz damnit!

tombom · Post by **tombom** » 23 Oct 2007, 17:20

I'm sure you'd all be pleased if I spammed the threads/forums of your mod with crap.

Forboding Angel · Post by **Forboding Angel** » 23 Oct 2007, 17:22

You may feel free the spam the funta thread all you like. Good luck finding anything in funta that is stagnant.

Besides, the mod is finished. Funta is final, and damn good too.

smoth · Post by **smoth** » 23 Oct 2007, 17:23

I already added the ZAZ, if people think I lack the ZAZ I will add more.

I speced several games of BA and these epic battles have the excitement of a fizzle due to the lack of zaz.

Forboding Angel · Post by **Forboding Angel** » 23 Oct 2007, 17:28

Using the default spring explosions for things is jsut... pathetic and sad.

smoth · Post by **smoth** » 23 Oct 2007, 17:36

well, honestly, I don't want to say sad. I don't think that is very fair but if the project is for the most part balance complete I honestly see no reason to not add some ZAZ.

Sleksa · Post by **Sleksa** » 23 Oct 2007, 17:58

God forbid that sleksa might need to bust out ctrl+c and crtl+v.

im in no way involved with any decisions made for BA. I dont do anything for the game, i dont edit text files, or anything else

This is a simple principle of game design evolution. THINGS CHANGE with the times.

BA could stay the same and one day you will find yourself playing with yourself alone against bots all the time. Ideas and concepts help BA grow and yes it has room to grow.

boo fucking hoo, go change your gundam mod instead of making ba change the way you want to.

ba is going to stay the same until noize goes mad, one day i might find myself playing with myself alone . . . with other cows, maybe its because we are ignorant, maybe because we hate you, maybe because we dont appreciate your work.

or maybe . . . its because we like the game just as it is

ideas and concepts help BA grow and yes it has room to grow

Bill Hicks wrote: By the way, if anyone here is in advertising or marketing, kill yourself.

Seriously, though. If you are, do. No, really. There's no rationalisation for what you do, and you are Satan's little helpers, okay? Kill yourself. Seriously. You are the ruiner of all things good, seriously. No, this is not a joke, if you're going: "There's going to be a joke coming." There's no fucking joke coming. You are Satan's spawn, filling the world with bile and garbage. You are fucked, and you are fucking us. Kill yourself, it's the only way to save your fucking soul. Kill yourself. Planting seeds.

I know all the marketing people are going: "He's doing a joke." There's no joke here whatsoever. Suck a tail-pipe, fucking hang yourself, borrow a gun from a Yank friend ├óÔé¼ÔÇ£ I don't care how you do it. Rid the world of your evil fucking machinations.

how many times do i have to repeat it for you?

BA

DOES

NOT

EVOLVE

Ba is a fork of absolute annihilation that focuses on balancing the gameplay of absolute annihilation. thats all there is to it. Absolute annihilation's goals afaik are to enchance the gameplay of total annihilation a bit

so the goal of balanced annihilation in total is to create a balanced, a little enchanced total annihilation on 3d

no we dont want your super fucking lua-scripts that make units not fire while moving, no we dont want skating juggernauts, no we do not want surfboards as transports in t1 sea, no we do not fucking want your tier 6 concepts.

There are other projects that are "evolving" and "growing" go suggest your things into complicated or yan who's making the fifth millenium or the CA devs, but please for the love of god not here.

smoth wrote: Erg, so I am wasting my time with suggestions ba, good to know.

zaz...

i wish more people would understand this instead of me shouting at them for months and months.

i wish you would understand this

smoth · Post by **smoth** » 23 Oct 2007, 18:04

a unit slowing down while firing is a VERY short bos script sleksa. As I said, the ideas were for Noize and if he liked them then it would be cool to see them because I think they are neat.

Caydr did change things about TA, he made aa highly dependant on conspam and nanotowers. He made the krogoth huge like ps3 and many many other changes outside of using uberhack as a base.

the point still remains though... what about some ZAZ!?!?

Saktoth · Post by **Saktoth** » 23 Oct 2007, 18:18

Forb, Smoth, you put Slek to shame in your powers of awesome trolling of the BA thread.

BA is really to balance AA, not balance TA. In AA, every version was 'Lets discover the mod all over again!'.

BA is not that. Minimal changes each version. Hell, t1 (IE most of the game) hasnt even been touched in ages.

If people wanted zaz and innovation, they'd play mods with zaz and innovation. Just how it is. Either way, you shouldnt complain, it leaves plenty of room for the zazzy innovators to advertise the superiority of their mods based on their zaz and innovation.

But hell, maybe all the BA guys know how to do is "tweak" text files.

Of course thats all they know how to do! Noize probably doesnt even know what half the tags in BA even do let alone how to script, model etc. All he did was take AA and said 'Alright, lets fix the weasel thing, and make a stable version of this'. Since then, the majority of changes have been bugfixes and minor tweaks.

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Sleksa · Post by **Sleksa** » 23 Oct 2007, 18:19

a unit slowing down while firing is a VERY short bos script sleksa.

that doesnt change the fact that its not wanted.

smoth · Post by **smoth** » 23 Oct 2007, 18:24

Saktoth wrote: If people wanted zaz and innovation, they'd play mods with zaz and innovation. Just how it is. Either way, you shouldnt complain, it leaves plenty of room for the zazzy innovators to advertise the superiority of their mods based on their zaz and innovation.

I resent that statement for one, that isn't trolling. I posted legitimate ideas and was chastised for it.

Now, I also find resentment in the fact that you think this is about superiority it isn't it is about the fact that it can be done with MINIMAL effort. Effects are easy to add. I am saying, again, IF ba is truely done or pretty much done because all they wanted to do was a few tweaks then they should take it to the next level and add the ZAZ. That is all. I do not care about who is better then who, I could give a flying crap about that because get this SMOTH ALREADY HAS ENOUGH REAL LIFE EGO, THAT THIS PETTY MOD WAR CRAP CONFUSES HIM! I have said this before and I will say it again, I think there is no reason to not utilize the CEGs that spring has. NONE!

Sleksa wrote:
a unit slowing down while firing is a VERY short bos script sleksa.
that doesnt change the fact that its not wanted.

by YOU, maybe noize would like the idea?

Sleksa · Post by **Sleksa** » 23 Oct 2007, 18:27

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But hell, maybe all the BA guys know how to do is "tweak" text files.

I find this very insulting

NOiZE has done a lot of maps, XTA was partly noize's work, creator BA, and done a lot of other jobs too, and you are crying here that he can only tweak text files?

Maybe you are just jealous because NOiZE has created something you can never achieve?

Now, I also find resentment in the fact that you think this is about superiority it isn't it is about the fact that it can be done with MINIMAL effort. Effects are easy to add. I am saying, again, IF ba is truely done or pretty much done because all they wanted to do was a few tweaks then they should take it to the next level and add the ZAZ. That is all. I do not care about who is better then who, I could give a flying crap about that because get this SMOTH ALREADY HAS ENOUGH REAL LIFE EGO, THAT THIS PETTY MOD WAR CRAP CONFUSES HIM! I have said this before and I will say it again, I think there is no reason to not utilize the CEGs that spring has. NONE!

what part of the sentence "ba does not want to fucking evolve"

what is there to not understand in that sentence?

ba is truely done or pretty much done because all they wanted to do was a few tweaks then they should take it to the next level and add the ZAZ.

-we dont want to do it, please go talk to the ca devs for the 150'th time

Forboding Angel · Post by **Forboding Angel** » 23 Oct 2007, 18:29

Saktoth wrote:Forb, Smoth, you put Slek to shame in your powers of awesome trolling of the BA thread.

Trolling simply for the sake of trolling is what sleksa does. We are not technically trolling, because we have good points, we have the ability to help and instruct, and we have experience concerning what we are talking about.

Calling what we have been discussing, "trolling", is a little bit of a stretch.

Maybe you are just jealous because NOiZE has created something you can never achieve?

How you figure?

Saktoth · Post by **Saktoth** » 23 Oct 2007, 18:33

You know that all this is going to achieve absolutely nothing, forb. There is no reason to do it, other than to get Sleksa frothing at the mouth (Which isnt a BAD reason...)

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Balanced Annihilation V5.8