Balanced Annihilation V5.8

[Krogoth86] · Post by **[Krogoth86]** » 20 Oct 2007, 01:40

Saktoth wrote:Its sort of the difference between Arm and Core though. Core has Solid, direct brute-force approaches. Arm is more fragile and is about projection of power over a large area.

I don't want to make it a rapid fire cannon but its reload time of pretty much 10 is very long and I think one about 7 or 8 would not be bad (still slower than Penetrator and Doomsday Anni). Though I haven't calculated yet which fire rate it would need to have the same dps the Doomsday Anni deals...

You also could do this via more damage per shot of course but I think rising the fire rate up a bit is a good idea as it then won't be so bad when he wastes the precious damage on some weak units that come in first. It still will fire slow then but doesn't take about twice as long as a Penetrator...

Sleksa · Post by **Sleksa** » 20 Oct 2007, 02:12

. . .

Neddie · Post by **Neddie** » 20 Oct 2007, 02:46

Raising, not rising, and the cost of first fire is a legitimate balancing point in BA. Look at the LRMT or any other low-rate weapon. The operating assumption is that the low-rate of fire prevents it from overwhelming alternatives.

KingRaptor · Post by **KingRaptor** » 20 Oct 2007, 03:35

If you have problems with Annihilator wasting shots, build some Dragon's Eyes and set the thing to hold fire.

Annihilator just needs a more sensible E cost, everything else about it is ok (unless you want to start comparing Janus vs. Leveler, Blade vs. Krow, Goliath vs. Bulldog).

New topic plz: light mines are not OP enough anymore, plz buff them again

Neddie · Post by **Neddie** » 20 Oct 2007, 04:15

One Word: Juno

RavingManiac · Post by **RavingManiac** » 20 Oct 2007, 06:10

New models?
http://spring.clan-sy.com/phpbb/viewtop ... c&start=20

clumsy_culhane · Post by **clumsy_culhane** » 20 Oct 2007, 07:35

@ravingManiac

the new models wont get put into BA most likely. its a lot more likely that they will be put into XTA, CA, TiA or even AA before they appear in BA. Thats what i heard.. as BA has had old models and hasnt got new ones.. not even getting them from CA or XTA...

RavingManiac · Post by **RavingManiac** » 20 Oct 2007, 09:02

This is tragic. BA seriously needs a graphics update. Now.

clumsy_culhane · Post by **clumsy_culhane** » 20 Oct 2007, 09:04

RavingManiac wrote:This is tragic. BA seriously needs a graphics update. Now.

lol ask NOiZE.. its not like it hasnt been asked/said before...

Sleksa · Post by **Sleksa** » 20 Oct 2007, 10:28

the latest graphics update was when noize changed the samson shooting graphics ~.~

hunterw · Post by **hunterw** » 20 Oct 2007, 11:47

RavingManiac wrote:This is tragic. BA seriously needs a graphics update. Now.

only if u guys want something silly like spring to not die off

clumsy_culhane · Post by **clumsy_culhane** » 20 Oct 2007, 12:26

hunterw wrote:
RavingManiac wrote:This is tragic. BA seriously needs a graphics update. Now.
only if u guys want something silly like spring to not die off

whats stopping NOiZE not to put the XTA/CA models in?... and where is NOiZE in all this?

Day · Post by **Day** » 20 Oct 2007, 12:50

on spring way more than you all

clumsy_culhane · Post by **clumsy_culhane** » 20 Oct 2007, 13:18

Day wrote:on spring way more than you all

.. it would help if he posted here with his opinions/ solutions...

Sleksa · Post by **Sleksa** » 20 Oct 2007, 13:34

hes too busy laughing at the people who post in here

KingRaptor · Post by **KingRaptor** » 20 Oct 2007, 13:42

Presumably he just sics sleksa on the people who make bad suggestions, like an attack dog.

Speaking of bad suggestions, here's another one:

[quote][7:32:30 PM] <[LCC]KingRaptor> hay Day
[7:32:34 PM] <[WarC]DayWalkeR> sup
[7:32:36 PM] <[LCC]KingRaptor> sniper is up buff plz
[7:32:39 PM] <[LCC]KingRaptor> :((((
[7:32:40 PM] <[WarC]DayWalkeR> O_o
[7:32:47 PM] <[WarC]DayWalkeR> and why is it up
[7:32:56 PM] <[LCC]KingRaptor> I spammed them on 6v6 altored and I didn't win
[7:32:59 PM] <[LCC]KingRaptor> therefore they must be up
[7:33:00 PM] <[LCC]KingRaptor> >_>
[7:33:04 PM] <[WarC]DayWalkeR> aah
[7:33:05 PM] <[WarC]DayWalkeR> ok
[7:33:17 PM] <[WarC]DayWalkeR> i will give them flea speed stealth back and 10000 hp
[7:33:45 PM] <[LCC]KingRaptor> make them frag jugonaut in one shot[/quote]

Sleksa · Post by **Sleksa** » 20 Oct 2007, 14:47

well you made a balance suggestion to fix a problem that you saw in the game

[7:32:36 PM] <[LCC]KingRaptor> sniper is up buff plz

you then backed it up with statistical evidence

after that you proved us that the loss wasnt your fault but the game's. And since we all play regularily with you we know that you are a good player with good experience and sense of gameplay

[7:32:56 PM] <[LCC]KingRaptor> I spammed them on 6v6 altored and I didn't win
[7:32:59 PM] <[LCC]KingRaptor> therefore they must be up

then you provided us with a solution to the arisen problem

[7:33:45 PM] <[LCC]KingRaptor> make them frag jugonaut in one shot

and then the cows listened and made changes everyone was happy :)

(for the next 10 mins until someone would post that fleas need +5000 hp)

Klopper · Post by **Klopper** » 20 Oct 2007, 17:10

The sniper changes Noize announced for the next BA version sound very promising, I'm really looking forward to them. Also, fleas are much too weak because of shitty weapon and very low hp, even LLTs can kill them. I suggest their HP be immediately increased by 5.000 or so.

DZHIBRISH · Post by **DZHIBRISH** » 20 Oct 2007, 21:22

Besides the crabe and the solar ca hasnt got any better looking models tbh...i took the crabe model to TFM but didnt take the solar cause there isnt a new solar for the other side.
xta models are not that much betetr if at all,they are just different.
The only unit worth taking is the Crabe to be honest.Its a very good looking unit and should be added to ba as well to replace the ugly fatboy.
there is a new goliath soon to be available as well i just hope it will look better in game.

Hellspawn · Post by **Hellspawn** » 20 Oct 2007, 21:25

Noize wants to keep unit consistance... instead of replacing unit by unit.

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Balanced Annihilation V5.8