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Why a good MMORTS with TA-esque dynamics can't be made now.

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Erom
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Post by Erom »

Sure, but resource crunch in a long campaign happens all the time.
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Why dont we simply make games with more realistic economic growth rates? like, anyone ever heard of a country that doubles its production ever 10 minutes? :) Only problem with making production be slower is that it would make the game less fun as well...

*Possible solution: Make all resource generating stuff be on map and players have to get it.
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manored wrote:Why dont we simply make games with more realistic economic growth rates? like, anyone ever heard of a country that doubles its production ever 10 minutes? :) Only problem with making production be slower is that it would make the game less fun as well...

*Possible solution: Make all resource generating stuff be on map and players have to get it.
The reason we don't do that is because nobody wants to spend 4 years just gearing up for war and not actually fighting.
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Everything in a game is artificial.

Maybe have the structures shared between players, so you got two sides fighting each other and the players construct stuff for their side. When one player logs off there'll be others to take care of the stuff. This makes sense, the players construct runways/landing pads/gateways (depending on mods style) for transporting their units to the battlefield, and fortifications, doesn't need to belong to one player.

You'd have this massive raging battle, instead of some typical buildup-forever style MMOR-whatever
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manored wrote:Why dont we simply make games with more realistic economic growth rates? like, anyone ever heard of a country that doubles its production ever 10 minutes? :) Only problem with making production be slower is that it would make the game less fun as well...

*Possible solution: Make all resource generating stuff be on map and players have to get it.
Personally, I have a job, and I can't afford to hire generals to play a game for me full time for 20 years.

Realistically, no one want's to play "general of a stagnant boring war THE GAME V2.0!"

Real life sucks, we play games to escape it, why would we want a more realistic game when it ruins fun?
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Post by rattle »

That's why there is hardly any (known) game which completely relies on realism.

In a realistic 3D shooter you'd trip fall every other minute over some random object or break your legs/crush some other vital body parts when landing on some random object. You'd rip your hands off by abusing ladders to avoid fall damage. You'd be exhausted after 5 minutes of bunny hopping and uh yeah true realism fails in computer games.

FarCry 2 (or was it Crysis?) seemed like a good compromise between realism and fun to me.
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Post by Boirunner »

I don't get this thread. A "MMORTS with TA dynamics" could never work anyway, unless players somehow could play for 24 hours a day. Nevermind exponential economies.
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Hum, I didnt really meant a game where you take years to make the economy grow, just a game where its hard to make it grow in comparation to making war...

I think tough that we could control economic growth by making either the economy need to be "captured" or have territory play a critical role on economy (need space for the economy). Currently in the most played mod (BA) you can get computer crashing economy with very little space...
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manored wrote:I think tough that we could control economic growth by making either the economy need to be "captured"
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manored wrote:or have territory play a critical role on economy (need space for the economy). Currently in the most played mod (BA) you can get computer crashing economy with very little space...
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manored wrote:Hum, I didnt really meant a game where you take years to make the economy grow, just a game where its hard to make it grow in comparation to making war...

I think tough that we could control economic growth by making either the economy need to be "captured" or have territory play a critical role on economy (need space for the economy). Currently in the most played mod (BA) you can get computer crashing economy with very little space...
So just remove metal makers, moho tech, and fusions.
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