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tombom · Post by **tombom** » 02 Oct 2007, 09:06

I'm pretty sure some anti-depressants have horrible side-effects and withdrawal symptoms while some don't.

Neddie · Post by **Neddie** » 02 Oct 2007, 09:11

All families of anti-depressants have side-effects, but they vary in intensity and in relation to the users. Withdrawal issues are less common, however.

smoth · Post by **smoth** » 02 Oct 2007, 09:32

Pressure Line wrote:
Felix the Cat wrote:
smoth wrote:ITT: BAAAAAAAAAAAAW

Guys seriously, stop being so emo.
Depression is actually a serious problem for some people :-/
mental illnesses will directly (ie they will have one) affect 1 in 5 people during the course of their lifetime. thats a HUGE proportion. its one of the leading causes of disability (inability to work) in the US, right behind heart disease.

and that is what is wrong with this country. You know what man? hard the F*** up! You feel depressed? too bad, life sucks, f*ck one of my friends burnt down my place and 28 others.

because he needed a roommate, I roomed with him to help him through a rough patch. Panda almost got killed I lost everything I owned. I had spent weeks cleaning my place for the semester(I mean military clean) and it was the Christmas break. This is what I came home to:

Or my friend in highschool who lived with his crack whore sister and his brother who would steal from him. When he got his first job his brother would beat the shit out of him and take his money for drugs!

There are tons of shitty things and these are nothing compared to other people I know. So stop cry, life is hard, that is what make it life. Things are rough, people are jerks and no it isn't fair.

I was a depressed kid also, you know what I did? ART and I built shit. If you get up and start doing things, help someone build a house, get a job, stay busy and stop sitting around crying you will find yourself getting the F*CK over it. If you are sitting there depressed then you have too much time on your hands.

Oh and another thing... disabilities are all fine and good.... if you have no legs or are blind. But psychological stuff is all you, yeah I have my dysfunctions also but frankly I have to deal with them.

We all have problems, you are not special

you are different.....

just like everyone else

and you are not a unique snowflake.

Ishach · Post by **Ishach** » 02 Oct 2007, 09:36

i honestly never feel happy or sad

im a superman

Pressure Line · Post by **Pressure Line** » 02 Oct 2007, 10:30

smoth wrote:random (slightly moronic) stuff

honest to fucking god smoth. i dont even know where to start. do you really think i just sit around all day thinking "oh noes, life r so horrible." I have spent most of the past few weeks installing car stereos in some friends cars (dear god i hate Nissans), moving house, fixing some of the wiring in said house, etc etc. and barring the effects of the terribly unpredictable weather (its nice out isnt it? ohh look lightning!) ive managed to get some work done on my car :D

no luck on the modeling front though (that ostensibly being the reason for this thread) but for the most part im enjoying the random jobs, but all its doing is occupying my mind, and not actually dealing with the initial problem...

im sure i had a point when i started, but im not sure it was a convincing one.

smoth · Post by **smoth** » 02 Oct 2007, 10:53

My belief, if you can call it that is life is a struggle and the point of it is to fight your very best.

Saktoth · Post by **Saktoth** » 02 Oct 2007, 16:49

If thoughts are just chemicals and electrical signals in your brain, you can have physical problems there in the same way you can have no legs. Mental illness is physical illness. In many ways, it is worse- a person with no legs still has control of their minds and can still be happy.

There probably are emo kids that need to just cheer up and get over it, but it is jumping to rash conclusions to assume anyone here is one of them.

Man, do we even need to have this discussion? Yes its all in your head- so is Epilepsy and Alzheimers (and brain damage).

Neddie · Post by **Neddie** » 02 Oct 2007, 19:20

If you're going to be that brutal about it, than apply the same argument to everybody. I know you haven't.

Felix the Cat · Post by **Felix the Cat** » 03 Oct 2007, 02:47

smoth wrote:blah blah blah

Yeah, those people with multiple sclerosis or cerebral palsy just need to get over it already. Fuck Alzheimer's patients, too; they just need to learn to deal with it by building houses. None of them have ANYTHING on you; your HOUSE GOT BURNT DOWN, O NOES THE HORRORS.

smoth · Post by **smoth** » 03 Oct 2007, 03:38

OH NOES it was an example. BAAAAAAAAAW SOME MORE!

Yeah serious brain damage is a concerning thing but I am not sure how many of you have worked with the severely profound. I did a lot of volunteer work as part of my behavioral conditioning. Some of those kids with normal minds trapped in a shell of a body dying all around them had more gusto then half of the whiney people who use some psychological disorder as a crutch.

Frankly I don't care that people have depression. I have been through it and I know what it is like, frankly the physiological evidence is not really there in concrete observable form. So no, I do not believe that all people are REALLY depressed! I think we have a culture that over caters to psychological disorders. If any of you were really depressed you would likely go into withdrawl from such strong statements. Instead you go on the attack, knowing the suicidal people I knew I do not really feel any pity for depression.

Of course I have not and will not lay out my problems suffice to say I do not feel sympathy for other depression people and frankly feel that whining about it is only FEEDING your disorder. Instead trying to work out a normal life forgetting the fact that you are prone to fits of melancholy or depression is a better way of dealing with it.

Ishach · Post by **Ishach** » 03 Oct 2007, 03:53

I think the irony here is you are the one who hasn't been depressed smoth.

Theres a real difference between depression and feeling sad because bad things happened to you.

smoth · Post by **smoth** » 03 Oct 2007, 04:00

Ishach wrote:I think the irony here is you are the one who hasn't been depressed smoth.

Or have I?

This thread only feeds a depression.

I say physical labor for depression. Physical labor raises endorphin levels.

funny thing is you people are not going to know my life story or what I have been through. Although I did say twice that I had to deal with depression.

protip: feeding depression with self-indulgent threads like this is not a real way of dealing with it.

oh and in case some of you denser people missed it, the apartment fire is just a little blip in my life. That has nothing to do with depression, I was merely upset by that thing. The POINT WAS that SHITTY things HAPPEN

Felix the Cat · Post by **Felix the Cat** » 03 Oct 2007, 04:02

smoth wrote:OH NOES it was an example. BAAAAAAAAAW SOME MORE!

Yeah serious brain damage is a concerning thing but I am not sure how many of you have worked with the severely profound. I did a lot of volunteer work as part of my behavioral conditioning. Some of those kids with normal minds trapped in a shell of a body dying all around them had more gusto then half of the whiney people who use some psychological disorder as a crutch.

Frankly I don't care that people have depression. I have been through it and I know what it is like, frankly the physiological evidence is not really there in concrete observable form. So no, I do not believe that all people are REALLY depressed! I think we have a culture that over caters to psychological disorders. If any of you were really depressed you would likely go into withdrawl from such strong statements. Instead you go on the attack, knowing the suicidal people I knew I do not really feel any pity for depression.

Of course I have not and will not lay out my problems suffice to say I do not feel sympathy for other depression people and frankly feel that whining about it is only FEEDING your disorder. Instead trying to work out a normal life forgetting the fact that you are prone to fits of melancholy or depression is a better way of dealing with it.

Who says we aren't trying to work out a better life? I certainly haven't heard anyone "whining" about it or leading an abnormal life.

I can't even figure out who you're raging at here; I don't see any emos around to account for it; it seems like you're really raging at emo kiddies rather than people who are actually depressed.

edit. Some physical & general mental symptoms of depression:
-General fatigue;
-Difficulty waking & falling asleep;
-Inability to focus or concentrate;
-Increased proneness to diseases such as colds;
-Loss of appetite or abnormally large appetite (depends on person);
-Loss of motivation;
-Social withdrawal.

Sangue · Post by **Sangue** » 03 Oct 2007, 04:02

Ok. Where are you getting the idea that this thread is self-indulgent? I merely see discussion of how things are, and some attempts at offering insight and possibly some help wedged in here and there.

The person who started this thread isn't some self-indulgent prat, by the by.

smoth · Post by **smoth** » 03 Oct 2007, 04:22

the thread didn't start as an all out baaaaaaaaw-fest. It was hijacked and converted to this.

Sangue · Post by **Sangue** » 03 Oct 2007, 04:26

I don't think you really have an understanding of this, or if you do, you just choose to try and make other people think the worst of you.

I usually try to just read this forum and interject things on occasion, but keep most of my thoughts to myself...but I think you need to not act like such a jackass in the times you do.

It's one thing to offer insight or even a critical comment about something, but it's another one entirely to come out and be mean when someone is just being honest about how things are for them right now.

I think I may have lost my point somewhere in this, but yes - if you have something critical to say, then at least try to not sound like you are such a bitter, cold-hearted soul.

Geez.

Felix the Cat · Post by **Felix the Cat** » 03 Oct 2007, 04:29

smoth wrote:the thread didn't start as an all out baaaaaaaaw-fest. It was hijacked and converted to this.

If you don't have anything helpful to say, please go post in the many places where you DO have something constructive to add to the discussion.

smoth · Post by **smoth** » 03 Oct 2007, 04:33

Hmmm, lets see... suggested exercising? check
Used anger as a trick: check

if you are angry you are not depressed are you?

oh and another thing.

This is the internet, this is also why you do not publicly post this stuff about yourself and hijack someones thread with it. Of course, that is fine, call me jackass, say that I do not understand. I find it laughable that you people assume that I wouldn't understand. I also find such an obviously transparent change of my character well... obvious. Yet people just presumed their bottoms off, all the while calling ME insensitive and saying I wouldn't understand. Again, I am not telling you my personal crap, I am not that stupid.

This is also the internet and this forum is a hell hole, it is idiotic to post here looking for support or a shoulder to cry on. He needs to go and seek therapy. This board and it's amateurish suggestions will not help and possibly make him worse. Of couse what would I know? I don't understand right? I don't understand that if he REALLY needs help he should seek it professionally. I don't understand that REAL help is not indulging the disorder. All of the things you list felix are adaptable things, I am an insomniac as well, so what? I get sick sometimes because I forget to eat, SO WHAT? I even OH MY GOSH lose motivation from time to time.

AGAIN, REAL HELP WILL NOT COME FROM THIS FORUM!

Felix the Cat · Post by **Felix the Cat** » 03 Oct 2007, 04:35

smoth wrote:Hmmm, lets see... suggested exercising? check
Used anger as a trick: check

if you are angry you are not depressed are you?

Felix the Cat wrote:If you don't have anything helpful to say, please go post in the many places where you DO have something constructive to add to the discussion.

Pressure Line · Post by **Pressure Line** » 03 Oct 2007, 05:05

Lock please.

this discussion has run its rational course, and has now devolved into temper tantrums and (somewhat subdued) flaming/trolling. which is somewhat disheartening.

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