DuoCore

[Frans]

ok, i'm not sure weather or not this is changed or not,
but does spring work well on a multi-cpu/core systems now?
i remember a while back, i once brought up taskmanager in windows,
and it showed that spring was using all the power from one cpu, and not the other.
but i'd like to know if this is changed(can't really check, since alt-tabbing out of a game freezes it for me), because having this fixed/supported could help many people with those duo, and even those brand new shiny quad cores.

also, if i go, and configure my vista to force spring to use only one core,
it does run about 2-10 FPS faster O_O.

but anyways, if spring still doesn't support multi cores/cpus, it would be better to put this on the development todo list :D

[SwiftSpear]

Spring works on multicore systems. Sometimes it might take a bit of setup.

Spring however, doesn't really use the power multicore systems bring to the equation, it's kind of stuck using one core.

[tombom]

I'm pretty sure AIs work on a second core. Otherwise it's wasted.

PS ithe text box showed up as invisible so this might be wrong

[Neddie]

AI do indeed not work on the other core as far as I know.

[AF]

OTAI and NTai use separate threads for the build algorithm.

Otherwise all AIs run inside the main spring thread.

Alongside this thread is the server thread which doesn't do very much so its unlikely to ever register as anything higher than 0.25% on the other cpu.

[clericvash]

Is there no way to get multi-core support for spring?

[Tobi]

no

(well, you might be able to put e.g. synced simulation in a different thread from unsynced simulation and rendering and input processing etc, but that's a lot of work, so good luck with that )

it will never scale properly over any number of cores though

[AF]

I guess unsynced code could make use of worker threads..

It might be a little much work todo though........

[clericvash]

So if other programs and games can, why can't spring?

[Tobi]

Because spring was not designed to use multiple cores, while other games were.

[clericvash]

Ah right so you actually have to implement it right at the start if you wish to use it? Well shouldn't be too much of a problem when they bring out more-core processors, the single cores are usually beefed up too.

[Warlord Zsinj]

Atleast you're dumping Windows and your AV stuff, etc on the other core.

[clericvash]

Well i am actually on Linux and don't have a multi-core anyway, i was just curios :)

[iamacup]

lets not piss about with the huge ammount of time and effort it will take to make spring multi-core supported and concentrate on stuff that actually needs doing

[Frans]

also... lets say that someday spring does infact take the step of using multi cores... will that mean that it would also use multi core gpu's?

[Kloot]

No, it is up to the writers of the OGL ICD's
themselves (Nvidia, ATI) to take advantage
of multi-core GPU's.

[AF]

No because then you fall into the trap of turning off multi threaded optimizations in the nvidia control panel or vice versa for whatever ATI calls it.

[LordMatt]

lets not piss about with the huge ammount of time and effort it will take to make spring multi-core supported and concentrate on stuff that actually needs doing

+1 Fix problem on 8 series GPUs plx.

[rattle]

Yeah, I ... uh want ... my water pretty as well!

[SwiftSpear]

Multicore, one more advantage of the OSRTS project.