Tired, please remove the Zenith from Tired Annihilation

TheRegisteredOne · Post by **TheRegisteredOne** » 17 Sep 2007, 23:29

Tired, please remove the Zenith from your mod. You asked for permission twice, twice you were denied permission. Why bother to ask if you are going to ignore it anyways? Furthermore, not only did you use the 3do, textures, and script without permission, you also failed to acknowledge me or Talon in any form (Your mod simply lacked a readme), nor did you acknowledge the contributions by others who's work was used in the zenith.

http://spring.unknown-files.net/file/35 ... ion_v0.13/

Tired wrote:Talon Mothership

Hiya.

I've been making a mod for TASpring, and awhile back
(with zwzyg's permission) added the TrueWalkScript
Monkeylord. I go by the username Tired.

If possible, I'd very much like to use your Talon
Mothership as well. I've ported the model and its
textures over already in a test folder just to see how
well it'd work. I replaced the main laser with a
Spring style beam which looks quite snazzy, and
changed the machine gun shots into Annihilator beams
with slightly different properties.

Was about to start working on the transportability of
aircraft next, but would like to know if I can use
your model/script or not first. The mod is TA-style
with an Absolute Annihilation core, although I've
altered balanced for every unit in it and added some
of Spring's nicer effects and lua scripts.

Hope to hear from ya, and nice model! =)

TheRegisteredOne wrote:unless you assist Noruas in porting Talon, I deny you the permission.

Tired wrote:lol@talon.com

That might be a viable option, except that Noruas says
that he has no plans, now or in the forseeable future,
to port the smelly Talon race over to Spring. ~~

If you just want the race in general, though, and
aren't too picky about the mod, then the Talon have
been in Spring for almost two years now. Some of the
textures are different, but Spring can't support the
number of textures that you use to begin with given
their file sizes. Also worth noting is that
teleporters in Spring (i.e. Stargates) still haven't
got lua scripts, although I'm trying to change that,
and some of your units (that Cathedral Tank comes to
mind) look like ass in Spring.

TheRegisteredOne wrote:then no, you may not use the flying saucer.

Tired wrote:Okies - have it your way. =)

Tired · Post by **Tired** » 18 Sep 2007, 00:08

Why should I bother to acknowledge you when you've been such an asshat about it? I still tell anyone who asks who made the unit, but interestingly enough, no one cares. =)

At this time, I have no interest whatsoever in removing the unit. Thanks for the mod promotion, btw.^^

TheRegisteredOne · Post by **TheRegisteredOne** » 18 Sep 2007, 00:10

Tired wrote:Why should I bother to acknowledge you when you've been such an asshat about it? I still tell anyone who asks who made the unit, but interestingly enough, no one cares. =)

At this time, I have no interest whatsoever in removing the unit. Thanks for the mod promotion, btw.^^

how do I not be an "asshat"? say "yes, you can use the unit" when it was never my intention? Being friendly while you insult the very mod you are stealing from?

Zodius · Post by **Zodius** » 18 Sep 2007, 00:11

I can't believe someone would do this to a fellow modder, especially considering that the request was rejected (twice). Regardless of if the changes you make are good, you should always respect the authors wishes.

Is that too much to ask?

It would be like if someone used my TrueWalk Script without my permission. I would be furious!

-1

Neddie · Post by **Neddie** » 18 Sep 2007, 00:15

You do not have permission to use the Mothership, Tired. Thus, you should remove it.

FLOZi · Post by **FLOZi** » 18 Sep 2007, 00:29

the mod should be removed from UF until this is fixed.

Cabbage · Post by **Cabbage** » 18 Sep 2007, 00:32

okay i'll hide the file for now, until this gets resolved...

[edit]
NM deleted it to save hassle... can always be uploaded again if/when this is all sorted..

Neddie · Post by **Neddie** » 18 Sep 2007, 00:32

You beat me to it, sir. I'll PM cup.

Snipawolf · Post by **Snipawolf** » 18 Sep 2007, 00:49

Well, in case you haven't noticed, Tired is a dick...

Saktoth · Post by **Saktoth** » 18 Sep 2007, 00:56

This is just... wow. New low for tired. If his units look so awful, dont steal them? Maybe? Perhaps?

This warrants a strong response from the community, this sort of behaviour cant be tolerated.

Peet · Post by **Peet** » 18 Sep 2007, 00:59

*hands around torches and pitchforks*

BlackLiger · Post by **BlackLiger** » 18 Sep 2007, 01:00

Tired, I'm issuing this notice. Do NOT advertise your mod on this forum or the client until such time as you have complied and removed said unit from your mod.

This is a notice because we are NOT having this fucking pissing contest about copyright again, thank you very much.

Edit: NB. This is so we don't have a damn community war over this, thank you. I honestly don't care about the copyright, and from what I can tell, neither do the devs.

And this post is my personal views backed with the fact I'm NOT seeing this community go down the pan over this.

Noruas · Post by **Noruas** » 18 Sep 2007, 01:20

I tried warning ya, but i guess ya'll didn't listen, and as far as converting talon to spring, you do not need the cathedral and the stargates, because it would obviously need some sort of complex retexture of intelligence and LUA.
Tired, i can fix the texture problems in a flash, and you can easily get talon AND tll in the same mod with BA/AA/TA/CA, or even XTA

Err Talon smells far better than any third party race, in fact, it smells good.

Its not impossible to add Talon, its actually quite easy, I just can't balance and manage 2 mods at the same with school and football.

iamacup · Post by **iamacup** » 18 Sep 2007, 01:37

ffs guys

why do i have to put up with all the pm's to remove stuff from uf

firstly, to content makers, why make the stuff and not allow people to use it? POINTLESS!!!!!!

seccondly, tired as you know i have played your mod on a few occasions but i have to remove your mod per the UF TOC AUP Blah blah blah.

but let me note, if i hadnt recieved so many pm's i would keep it there as i actually dont care.

Cabbage · Post by **Cabbage** » 18 Sep 2007, 01:44

iamacup wrote:ffs guys

why do i have to put up with all the pm's to remove stuff from uf

firstly, to content makers, why make the stuff and not allow people to use it? POINTLESS!!!!!!

seccondly, tired as you know i have played your mod on a few occasions but i have to remove your mod per the UF TOC AUP Blah blah blah.

but let me note, if i hadnt recieved so many pm's i would keep it there as i actually dont care.

I already removed it cup you numpty

iamacup · Post by **iamacup** » 18 Sep 2007, 01:46

i know but that didnt mean peoples pm's vanished

FLOZi · Post by **FLOZi** » 18 Sep 2007, 01:53

but let me note, if i hadnt recieved so many pm's i would keep it there as i actually dont care.

So the mass PMing of you was therefore legitimate, in fact, required for the desired action to take place? (if it weren't for Cabbage

)

Neddie · Post by **Neddie** » 18 Sep 2007, 02:46

I am sorry about PMing you, Cup. I didn't have time to get in lobby.

SwiftSpear · Post by **SwiftSpear** » 18 Sep 2007, 02:56

I like how cup makes an argument and then instantly proves it wrong. "You don't need to PM me a million times about something, but if I wasn't PMed I wouldn't have taken action"

Neddie · Post by **Neddie** » 18 Sep 2007, 03:02

http://spring.unknown-files.net/file/36 ... ooter_0.2/

It spreads. Look at the changelog.

Spring RTS Engine

Tired, please remove the Zenith from Tired Annihilation

Tired, please remove the Zenith from Tired Annihilation