AI support for ingame spawnpoint selection

[Ralith]

This doesn't have to be particulariliy advanced. Just choosing something near a metal patch within the host-defined spawn box would suffice. Me and my friends frequently play team vs. bots, and it's extremely aggrivating to have to restart the game constantly until random start positions get everybody in the same general area, while fixed positions are simply never correct.

[LathanStanley]

Host starts game with pick starts

game loads host does:

.cheat (starts cheat mode)
.team # (computer team)
(pick start)
(repeat .team with each player)
.team 0 (host player team)
.cheat (turn cheat mode off)
(click ready)
(play)

[Neddie]

This runs into player stupidity all the time Lathan. Between randoms, there needs to be a better method. Between amigos, it works fine.

[Ralith]

Host starts game with pick starts

game loads host does:

.cheat (starts cheat mode)
.team # (computer team)
(pick start)
(repeat .team with each player)
.team 0 (host player team)
.cheat (turn cheat mode off)
(click ready)
(play)

That'll be a great holdover for when I'm playing with trustworthy people, but obviously that's open to abuse in normal circumstances, so a proper solution is still needed.

[AF]

This is not somethign AI devs have just 'left out'

AI developers have no way of implementing this AI side as AIs arent even created till the game starts after the positions are all set.

[Ralith]

This is not somethign AI devs have just 'left out'

AI developers have no way of implementing this AI side as AIs arent even created till the game starts after the positions are all set.

Which is why I posted this here, instead of another section more appropriate for AI development.

[BrainDamage]

with this, in the next version, it will be possible to chose the AI's location directly in the singleplayer launcher/lobby client

[Ralith]

That's great, but what about multiplayer, and what about allowing the AIs to choose their own locations?

[Kloot]

Not a likely development (it would require engine changes
to pass AI's the starting rectangle, and to not launch the
game until all AI players had picked a position). There are
other problems with granting AI's that freedom as well,
multiple AI's on the same ally-team might all choose the
same location and/or get in each other's way a lot, etc.

[BrainDamage]

what about multiplayer?

the feature will be usable in multiplayer when the lobby server will support it, then the lobby clients will be able to use it