Specify groundscar(s) for specific explosion type

Caydr · Post by **Caydr** » 27 Jun 2007, 03:50

Is this possible currently, will it be possible in the next release, or no?

I mean, make a custom explosion, then make it so that whenever that particular explosion goes off, it leaves a unique groundscar, or chooses randomly from a set of unique groundscars.

Would be used for, off the top of my head, maybe things like a special Commander explosion that makes the ground look like it's extra brutalized.

Argh · Post by **Argh** » 27 Jun 2007, 03:59

You can do this in the next version, but without randomness, by simply using nulls for the existing groundscars, and using long-lasting custom Groundflashes as groundscars, instead (if we could only randomize it, it'd be perfect).

smoth · Post by **smoth** » 27 Jun 2007, 05:58

is there any possibility the left over groundflash can lag the game though? after all they are not limited like the decals of the ground impact decal.

Argh · Post by **Argh** » 28 Jun 2007, 01:52

I dunno. I'd guess that they are limited by the number of particles, and I'd certainly think that anybody using this would be very wise to give them an eventual decay time, even for giant ones. But that's just me.

Caydr · Post by **Caydr** » 01 Jul 2007, 22:10

From what I can tell the groundflash is a very simple effect, you'd need a lot to lag the game down. Would just depend on modder's good judgement, like any other effect.

Eaglebird · Post by **Eaglebird** » 01 Jul 2007, 22:58

Now that you mention it, it would be nice to see scars appropriate to their explosions.
Make a nuke leave a nice radiation symbol burn-mark in the ground.

smoth · Post by **smoth** » 02 Jul 2007, 03:57

groundflash is also an additive blend if I understand it correctly and will be a GLOWING spot not a burn mark iirc.

Eaglebird · Post by **Eaglebird** » 02 Jul 2007, 04:13

smoth wrote:groundflash is also an additive blend if I understand it correctly and will be a GLOWING spot not a burn mark iirc.

All the better for radiation!

Caydr · Post by **Caydr** » 02 Jul 2007, 05:02

I think you're speaking at cross purposes, Eaglebird is talking about scars, you're talking about flashes.

...Now, a glowing groundscar, that might have some use actually....

I think I've gotta make a thread about that.

smoth · Post by **smoth** » 02 Jul 2007, 05:32

caydr, the thread is talking about using groundflashes as a sort of controlled groundscar. Please do not create another needless thread, many other users have threads that are of interest to them. It is not fair for you to monopolize the forum.

Caydr · Post by **Caydr** » 02 Jul 2007, 05:34

Caydr, who started this topic wrote:I mean, make a custom explosion, then make it so that whenever that particular explosion goes off, it leaves a unique groundscar, or chooses randomly from a set of unique groundscars.

Eaglebird wrote:Now that you mention it, it would be nice to see scars appropriate to their explosions.
Make a nuke leave a nice radiation symbol burn-mark in the ground.

smoth wrote:groundflash is also an additive blend if I understand it correctly and will be a GLOWING spot not a burn mark iirc.

Now go back to derailing my post, I wouldn't want to monopolize it.

In case anyone does't want me to keep ideas to myself, here's that other idea I was talking about.

Post by **trepan** » 02 Jul 2007, 05:52

in case you find something else that you want and isn't built into the engine:
http://trepan.bzflag.bz/spring/groundquad.jpg
(using the LuaUI/Cob/Gaia/Rules gl.DrawGroundQuad() call)

smoth · Post by **smoth** » 02 Jul 2007, 06:05

Argh wrote:You can do this in the next version, but without randomness, by simply using nulls for the existing groundscars, and using long-lasting custom Groundflashes as groundscars, instead (if we could only randomize it, it'd be perfect).

oh my god.... I think this is what we were discussing.

Caydr · Post by **Caydr** » 02 Jul 2007, 07:15

No, I don't think that's what I was asking about. Actually I don't really understand what Argh said too well, but the gist I got was, "No, it's not possible qute as you said, but you can use this in the meantime."

Can anyone help me understand what Trepan said? I got lost at LUA.

smoth · Post by **smoth** » 02 Jul 2007, 07:23

I know, I was just continueing the conversation in the vein that argh started. I have been gone all weekend visiting my mom so I was unable to post that tidbit and I also happened to think that the new guy was also in the same discussion.

Trepan is saying that you can draw your groundscar with lua and skip diddling with spring's stuff all together.

Caydr · Post by **Caydr** » 02 Jul 2007, 07:24

How's your mom?

smoth · Post by **smoth** » 02 Jul 2007, 07:25

pretty good, thanks for asking. We chilled out watched some movies etc.

Caydr · Post by **Caydr** » 02 Jul 2007, 07:25

Cool. You should rent The Notebook next time you go, she'd probably like it. Good story.

smoth · Post by **smoth** » 02 Jul 2007, 07:27

The hunt for red October was on. That is always good. other then that, not really.

On topic: Did I clarify what trepan was saying?

Caydr · Post by **Caydr** » 02 Jul 2007, 16:19

I think so, though my ineptitude with LUA means I have no idea how to implement what he just said.

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Specify groundscar(s) for specific explosion type

Specify groundscar(s) for specific explosion type