For those who think .NET is a fad...

[jouninkomiko]

Umm, there are free versions of Visual Studio out. It's called Visual Studio Express. Give them a shot, they aren't bad.

[Torrasque]

thanks for the info jouninkomiko.
When I try to compile, it don't find some heather like windows.h , winsock2.h , dsound.h ... . Where can I find them?
And there is a lot of CONST xxx = yyy wich should be CONST int xxx = yyy.

[AF]

are you putting

#include "windows.h"
or
#include <windows.h>

Eitherway I thought every windows compiler had those files bundled on install anyway?

And there is a lot of CONST xxx = yyy wich should be CONST int xxx = yyy.

hmm if xxx has already been initialised then it's valid?

int xxx;
int yyy;
CONST xxx = yyy;

pfft I'm tired, I'll come back and edit later.

[Min3mat]

Speaking of off topic, I think Apple's move to Intel is an excellent choice.

/me walks away whistling and trying to look innocent....
lol nice use of small text :)

[PauloMorfeo]

... Visual Studio Express. Give them a shot, they aren't bad.

They seem to be nice. I've used the Web Developer because i had WinXP Home, which does not have IIS and the Visual Studio Web Developer has a built in Web Server to test our pages.

However, i got a very bad impression from some other stuff... The SQL express(?) server, was continuously putting my CPU at peaks of some 40~50% performance every 3 secs. The Web Developer was handling wrong the Seession variable in my ASP pages.
I also had to install the .NET Framework 2.0 to install those.
I friend told me the problems were from the .NET 2.0 beta version and i really don't know but the truth is that my system got completely messed up. Borland C# even virtually stopped working...

I eventually formated my hard drive...

Anyway, i wouldn't really recomend people to not install (nor would i recomend them to install, anyway) those as they seemed me to be good, visually apealing and are free (as in money).
You can also order those Visual Studios (or something of the sort... Don't really know) from Microsoft. They are free and you won't even have to pay for it's shipment. All you need to do is fill out some forms and stuff...
I already have one of those waiting for me to try it out (in an expendable Windows instalation...).

[Neuralize]

The Visual Studio .net 2005 C++ Express doesn't like the Spring source, gets all angry and is like ABKLJAKLJAF WINDOWS.H IS BUILT IN SO IF YOU LINK IT YOU'RE DUMB. Grr.