The New Spring Site

Post by **jcnossen** » 17 Jun 2007, 14:43

I really think we need a newbie frontpage with some small screenshots, nice logo and most of all not much text. Like http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/

NOiZE · Post by **NOiZE** » 17 Jun 2007, 14:44

jcnossen wrote:I really think we need a newbie frontpage with some small screenshots, nice logo and most of all not much text. Like http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/

+1

AF · Post by AF » 17 Jun 2007, 15:53

atm a big question mark hangs over the frontpage and tis content because everyone seems to be split between 2 camps

I really think we need a newbie frontpage with some small screenshots, nice logo and most of all not much text. Like http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/

I think a frontpage that wasnt the news upfront wouldn't feel right

SwiftSpear · Post by **SwiftSpear** » 18 Jun 2007, 08:05

The mozilla page has the news up front. It's just the most recent item though, and only one news entry. I tend to agree with Jn, too much visual clutter detracts from the front page. That's one of the things I really don't like about Tim's frontpage. It has everything, the ------- sink, and the neighbors goat there, just scroll down.

hunterw · Post by **hunterw** » 18 Jun 2007, 13:45

AF wrote:After soem editign and tweaking ehres the tempalte for the main page:

The news items will need editing to feature more flashy screenshots, less lorem ipsum

this, but trim the title bar to about half its current height. actually, prolly to a 1/3 or 1/4 of its current height. and it needs to be done over...too close up, you can see the grass floating above the ground etc on your screenshot.

im still too lazy to make one

clericvash · Post by **clericvash** » 18 Jun 2007, 14:23

AF wrote:After soem editign and tweaking ehres the tempalte for the main page:

The news items will need editing to feature more flashy screenshots, less lorem ipsum

The other guys site is still better, no offense AF but designing websites isn't one of your strong points!
That template just looks plain and booring, the current spring site looks nicer than that!

AF · Post by AF » 18 Jun 2007, 17:13

I've been saying for quite a while that the image isnt a solid block, and will contain an intro and a large download button. To that end think of it more as an image or a background than a banner.

And I quite like that image, so what if the grass is there I think it looks nice, and the grass does not detract imo.

@Clericvash/etc:
I'm showing a website, tims showing a single html page. Right now the primary method of judging between the two is aesthetics, not usability, functionality, flexibility, etc. I have a feeling that after a few months we'll all be sick of tims design and want to put up a 3rd site. You're dissing an entire website despite never visiting it based on WIP screenshots.

clericvash · Post by **clericvash** » 18 Jun 2007, 17:37

I am not dissing an entire site, if you give me a link to the website to test mabye i can give some true feedback from honestly from that latest screenshot it looks plain and booring.

I am in agreement with jc about being simple with a nice download button and such but i still prefer tims design to yours.

SwiftSpear · Post by **SwiftSpear** » 18 Jun 2007, 18:01

clericvash wrote:I am not dissing an entire site, if you give me a link to the website to test mabye i can give some true feedback from honestly from that latest screenshot it looks plain and booring.

I am in agreement with jc about being simple with a nice download button and such but i still prefer tims design to yours.

Why, are you colorblind?

Not intending any personal offense to Tim, but his design, ascetically, is really ugly.

AF's design is ascetically solid, although it is a bit generic I feel... If it functions better then the current spring site I could accept that design.

clericvash · Post by **clericvash** » 18 Jun 2007, 18:15

SwiftSpear wrote:
clericvash wrote:I am not dissing an entire site, if you give me a link to the website to test mabye i can give some true feedback from honestly from that latest screenshot it looks plain and booring.

I am in agreement with jc about being simple with a nice download button and such but i still prefer tims design to yours.
Why, are you colorblind?

Not intending any personal offense to Tim, but his design, ascetically, is really ugly.

AF's design is ascetically solid, although it is a bit generic I feel... If it functions better then the current spring site I could accept that design.

Theres no need to start being rude!

Sure there is a colour header, but the rest is really, really plain.

AF · Post by AF » 18 Jun 2007, 20:03

That wasnt rude, rather it was a strongly expressed opinion.

However I've reduced the top images height to 300px from 413px I just need to resize the image now so it isnt cut off halfway down.

In other news I've added a fully integrated gallery.

smoth · Post by **smoth** » 18 Jun 2007, 20:49

I honestly like af's layout etc a lot more then tims, I mean no offense to tim but in my opnion and that is all it is, I like AF's layout more.

Boirunner · Post by **Boirunner** » 18 Jun 2007, 22:56

SwiftSpear wrote:Why, are you colorblind?

Not intending any personal offense to Tim, but his design, ascetically, is really ugly.

AF's design is ascetically solid, although it is a bit generic I feel... If it functions better then the current spring site I could accept that design.

I'm not one to usually care about typos or spelling errors, but the difference between Aesthetics and Asceticism is profound (and funny) enough to point out

AF · Post by AF » 19 Jun 2007, 01:25

Some people have issues with grammar and typing. There are numerous reasons and there isnt always a quick fix.

Swiftspear has said so in the past, as have I aGorm and smoth for example. I cant remember exactly what it was, but Smoth has a medical issue with his hands, aGorm has a midl form of dyslexia, and I have a problem with certain 2 letter key combinations being reversed e.g. me->em ly->yl etc.

Thus to point them out and make fun or complain is not a wise idea. More people have problems than youd think and they do indeed proof read where possible.

TradeMark · Post by **TradeMark** » 19 Jun 2007, 01:58

AF wrote:and I have a problem with certain 2 letter key combinations being reversed e.g. me->em ly->yl etc.

I've always thought you did it on purpose. Do you read your post when you have sent it? That might solve the problem...

AF · Post by AF » 19 Jun 2007, 02:04

I usually remove about 10-20 mistakes via quick proof reading per post. What you see would be a lot worse if I just posted wihout checking.

Boirunner · Post by **Boirunner** » 19 Jun 2007, 02:06

Wow. Are you aware that the newest Firefox version has an integrated spellchecker? It might save you quite some time.

AF · Post by AF » 19 Jun 2007, 02:15

I have swiftfox on my laptop and it just makes me take longer right clicking on things and adding them to the dictionary all the time

I prefer Opera which has a spellchecker too but I tend not to use it.

hunterw · Post by **hunterw** » 19 Jun 2007, 04:27

smoth wrote:I honestly like af's layout etc a lot more then tims, I mean no offense to tim but in my opnion and that is all it is, I like AF's layout more.

yea that

AF · Post by AF » 19 Jun 2007, 08:27

Screenshot stuff:

http://www.darkstars.co.uk/randomfiles/ ... gnew18.JPG

New top image for frontpage:

http://www.darkstars.co.uk/randomfiles/ ... gnew19.JPG

I want to make the top shorter too as soon as I figure out howto do it without making the logo squashed.

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