Spring Mark

SwiftSpearNotHome · Post by **SwiftSpearNotHome** » 19 Mar 2007, 15:23

Any application you download and run online could potentially be a virus. Spring could have been a virus. Use you're brains here, half a dozen trusted comunity members have verified already that this is legitimate. Just because it's closed source doesn't mean it's an any higher risk of being a virus then any other peice of software you've downloaded off the internet. Hell, did you worry about your graphics drivers being a virus when you downloaded and ran them? They are closed source.

AF · Post by AF » 19 Mar 2007, 15:40

I think its who is providing it rather than what they're providing thats the cause of mistrust, afterall jj hasnt had a shiny trackrecord in the past.

iamacup · Post by **iamacup** » 19 Mar 2007, 17:13

meh im happy to use it.

you only have to run it once.....

Unknown Files is closed source KEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEEKEKEKEK

Run!

Cabbage · Post by **Cabbage** » 19 Mar 2007, 17:40

All ur credit card details are belung to him!

espylaub · Post by **espylaub** » 19 Mar 2007, 18:36

Good thing I don't have one.

The silly thing is: I've played 10-20 games on GF with JJ without any problems on my part. But now that he's seen my stats confirmed, he won't let me play in his games anymore

Yes, I know, Greenfields

iamacup · Post by **iamacup** » 19 Mar 2007, 19:00

so run the program......

espylaub · Post by **espylaub** » 19 Mar 2007, 20:15

That's the point, I did! And before he thought 1.6 ghz centrino was ok, and now it suddenly isn't anymore

LordMatt · Post by **LordMatt** » 19 Mar 2007, 20:45

THE POINT, is this is a silly program that provides no benefit to users (it appears to just feed someone's ego), that they are forced to use to play games with this host. It makes no allowance for users, such as espylaub, who have slower machines but use settings which are appropriate for them. While this is obviously not a virus, I don't think this sort of thing should be encouraged.

Peet · Post by **Peet** » 19 Mar 2007, 23:11

hrmph · Post by **hrmph** » 20 Mar 2007, 00:09

Swift is right, "anything can be a virus." Which is why I don't run anything from a source I don't trust... Hell, I won't even run some of the AIs for spring because of this. I know I'm too cautious: but I haven't gotten a virus yet (atleast I hope so

).

On to a 'better' point: something like this should be incorporated into the lobby.

AF · Post by AF » 20 Mar 2007, 00:11

mUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

what are we talking about?

hrmph · Post by **hrmph** » 20 Mar 2007, 00:25

AF is pure evil :p

LBPB · Post by **LBPB** » 20 Mar 2007, 23:14

LordMatt wrote:THE POINT, is this is a silly program that provides no benefit to users (it appears to just feed someone's ego), that they are forced to use to play games with this host. It makes no allowance for users, such as espylaub, who have slower machines but use settings which are appropriate for them. While this is obviously not a virus, I don't think this sort of thing should be encouraged.

LordMatt put another right point here

Even if a have a top notch computer, I will keep playing with anyone in the community, even if it will cause some lag in game.

Wake up
This is a community not a sort of elitist association

Felix the Cat · Post by **Felix the Cat** » 21 Mar 2007, 06:11

HEY GUYS I HAVE AN IDEA :idea:

LETS MAKE EVERYONE DOWNLOAD A CLOSED SOURCE APP FROM A DISREPUTABLE SOURCE THAT TRANSMITS YOUR SYSTEM'S VITAL STATS TO A CENTRAL SERVER IN ORDER FOR YOU TO BE ABLE TO PLAY A MASSIVELY OVERSIZED GAME ON A SHITTY UNFINISHED GAME WITH A HOST THAT REGULARLY KICKS PEOPLE MID GAME FOR NO REASON AT ALL

ISN'T THAT A GREAT IDEA GUYS

LOrDo · Post by **LOrDo** » 21 Mar 2007, 06:31

This could actually be a potentially good program is JJ didn't abuse it and banstick anyone with less then a $200 CPU.

jj · Post by jj » 21 Mar 2007, 18:30

i dont kick people mid-game, only when they lag a lot
but now that are only people that didnt run springmark

iamacup · Post by **iamacup** » 21 Mar 2007, 20:13

LOrDo wrote:This could actually be a potentially good program is JJ didn't abuse it and banstick anyone with a crap CPU.

Yep cpus that cost 200 dolars or less are crap even on low settings for huge GF games.

KDR_11k · Post by **KDR_11k** » 21 Mar 2007, 21:07

I hope this doesn't turn into a Mark of the Beast.

Felix the Cat · Post by **Felix the Cat** » 22 Mar 2007, 03:44

jj wrote:i dont kick people mid-game, only when they lag a lot

...and since you play almost exclusively 16 player greenfields spamfests, this is a common occurence...

but now that are only people that didnt run springmark

...and it's obvious that you really don't know much about what determines performance.

Let's take me as an example. You'd love my SpringMark stats. 3.33GHz P4 processor, 1GB RAM. Yet I'd almost assuredly lag your game to hell. Why? Not only am I running on a laptop, my laptop is a make/model that has a common overheating problem which reduces performance by up to 50% during long periods of high-load usage.

Someone running a measely 1.6GHz processor (not Celeron) on the lowest settings, with decent hardware backing it up, in a desktop, would most likely not lag your game at all.

Yet who would you kick for not being good enough for your game? The latter.

But whatever. I have no issue with SpringMark as long as it doesn't somehow become a community standard that everyone demands. If it's restricted to greenfields/speedmetal games, go ahead... less people need to play those anyways.

ZellSF · Post by **ZellSF** » 22 Mar 2007, 05:26

I've never seen hosts kick people for lagging the game yet (kicking players usually results in crappy games). Nor people being disallowed to play because of inferior specifications. Is this a greenfields only thing I should safely ignore?

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