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clericvash
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Post by clericvash »

I don't understand why you use .spring instead of spring for folder name, i have to show hidden folders to use the folder, it gets annoying.
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Icebird
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Post by Icebird »

well applications' folders in home directories are generally hidden in unix

as a work around, you can make a visible symlink to .spring :
$ ln -s .spring spring
pumpkin
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Post by pumpkin »

Thanks, didn't notice .springrc had changed.

There is a strange performance hit:

if the desktop runs 16bit color:
- ground renders at normal speeds
- all textures work
- any visible unit causes a big performance hit (from +- 140 fps to 10)

if the desktop runs in 24bit color:
- everything runs smoothly (at low settings)
- ground looks normal
- but the units no longer have textures

System:
IBM R51, radeon M7, opensource radeon driver (kernel module version 1.19, xorg module version 1.23), Xorg 7.1.1, kernel 2.6.15. The 3D driver should work fine, ut2003 runs at the same speed in windows and linux.

which springrc-setting should i test ?
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clericvash
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Post by clericvash »

Icebird wrote:well applications' folders in home directories are generally hidden in unix

as a work around, you can make a visible symlink to .spring :
$ ln -s .spring spring
Thanks, but in reality this would be confusing to newer users to linux (like me) so mabye it should be a normal folder from the start, since it will be used a lot for adding mods, maps, etc.
10053r
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Post by 10053r »

Hopefully, the lobby will eventually support editing this folder for you. I say leave it hidden.
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clericvash
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Post by clericvash »

Do you have a good reason for wanting to keep it hidden?
10053r
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Post by 10053r »

How about it is the standard behavior that EVERY application adheres to? Do you have any good reason for making it visible? Considering that the user is by default "locked out" of "Program Files" on the PC, I don't see how this is any more onerous. In either case there is a simple 1 step procedure for getting into the maps and mods folders. If we make this folder visible on linux, then we need to also move maps and mods to c: on the pc. And that would be silly.
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Slamoid
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Post by Slamoid »

When new versions of Spring come out, will somone update this package as well, or should I start downloading dependancies today?
Fri13
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Hidden is default, hidden is best, hidden is easier.

Post by Fri13 »

clericvash wrote:Do you have a good reason for wanting to keep it hidden?
a) default way on linux is application settings are stored to /home/username/.config or .folder_named_by_app

b) default way will not make feel that you arent controlling what folders you see on home. User can keep home folder nice and clean and it is important. (personaly i hate those apps what want to hardlink own directories to home, like F-Spot Pictures or VERY stupid Desktop by Gnome what you cant change even your own language Desktop is not named as Desktop.)

c) for those who like to see that folder, it is easy to do link for that. I preferr way that maps and mods directory is link from home to /media/shared/games/spring/maps or mods directory. There i can have write permissions for every user and even limit who can get connected there via FTP/SMB to download maps and mods etc.

d) It's much easier to show files or make link to hidden directory/config file than trying hide something, just because hidden name policy.

e) Using konqueror or any other filemanager what support addressbar (not nautilus by default) you can press shortcut to get that bar and type .spr<tab> so there is no need to see all hidden files.
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Post by Tobi »

Just FYI, the Ubuntu Edgy Eft debs have been reported to work fine in Ubuntu Feisty Fawn.
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clericvash
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Post by clericvash »

Fri13 sorry for late reply, all are very true, thanks for clearing it up.
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