death animation and corpses.

smoth · Post by **smoth** » 14 Mar 2007, 09:30

Here is a video of my new commander death:
http://cs.selu.edu/~ssmith/BB/files/gawdies_111.wmv

As you can see it looks good... large arcraft translates to ground then booms.. but it is the part afterwards and durring that bothers me.

you see, the commanders corpse pop up un the air.

2 things..

I can ONLY translate the base part.. I cannot translate my gp origon part. This means that the units are still firing at the spot the commander used to be.. this does suck very much as it makes the translation obvious. Also the unit is DEAD... it should no longer be a target.

Secondly the corpse spawns where the commander still *is*.. this means that it looks really akward.

If there is a solution please let me know... if there is not... then could someone correct this for the next version of spring?

KDR_11k · Post by **KDR_11k** » 14 Mar 2007, 09:33

I complained about dead units remaining a target back when I first made GINTA. Also you can still reclaim a unit that self-ds. Doesn't seem to have much of a priority, perhaps because no mods use it.

smoth · Post by **smoth** » 14 Mar 2007, 09:38

well we do now. :)

Zpock · Post by **Zpock** » 14 Mar 2007, 15:33

Hmm I was thinking about death animations lately... What about land units? Is it possible to make them stay areound a few sec after death for some mesh-falling-over action? Like in the FBI:

deathdelay=10;

Then you can animate it like usual in the BOS/COB. That would own so much.

And also would be nice if remaining a target was also set in the FBI so the modder can choose rather then hard coded.

KDR_11k · Post by **KDR_11k** » 14 Mar 2007, 15:52

No tags, you just put the animation into Killed() and the unit will disappear when Killed() returns. The unit will remain a target while Killed() is running, though.

yuritch · Post by **yuritch** » 14 Mar 2007, 16:04

As for the corpse appearing in the air: does somebody know what factors (it any) determine its fall speed? I tried to make some planes with corpses and they seem to fall way too slow... One possible workaround is to make the units explode completely in death animation (probably upon reaching ground) and leave no corpse, which even makes some sence for aircraft falling from great heights.

Post by **trepan** » 14 Mar 2007, 16:28

smoth:

I've already got this feature in the synced LUA scripts, I should have
it setup for COB scripts by the time I commit. Here's a format I'm
considering (the names are in flux, etc...) What's important to consider
is whether or not the packed coordinates format is desired.

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// 1: use 1 parameter to enable/disable the override
call-script PhysicsOverride(enabled)

// 7: all parameters  (the next position is used for extrapolation)
call-script PhysicsOverridePosAng(XZ, Y, nextXZ, nextY, rotX, rotY, rotZ)

// 5: translation and heading 
call-script PhysicsOverridePosHeading(XZ, Y, nextXZ, nextY, heading)

// 4: translation, no angular adjustment
call-script PhysicsOverridePos(XZ, Y, nextXZ, nextY)

// 3: angular displacement, no translation
call-script PhysicsOverrideAng(rotX, rotY, rotZ)

The rotations are done in the following order: Z, X, Y.

P.S. Note that the PhysicsOverride() calls would have to be defined in
the COB script, even though its contents are not used (the same trick
as for the lua_XXX() calls). It could be setup to use a single call, and use
the number of parameters to determine the mode.

P.P.S. That's preliminary... I might want to swap out the 1 param toggle
version for a only-change-heading version depending on whether or not
a single call is used.

Post by **trepan** » 14 Mar 2007, 16:48

I'll probably also want to set it up so that the inital PhysicsOverride(value)
setting determines whether or not the engine increments the position based
on the speed. Would probably want to rename the nextXZ/Y params to
speeds in that case.

Something like:
0: override disabled
1: override enabled, extrapolate positions
2: override enabled, fixed position (faster if only rotating)

I'll decide when I've got a clearer head, and after I've "refactor"ed
a little to setup a fake moveType rather then forcing values

Zpock · Post by **Zpock** » 14 Mar 2007, 17:02

KDR_11k wrote:No tags, you just put the animation into Killed() and the unit will disappear when Killed() returns. The unit will remain a target while Killed() is running, though.

Wait, is it possible with the current engine or are you talking about how it should be? I always tought the killed() only lets you choose explosions. I agree with this cleaner implementation.

KDR_11k · Post by **KDR_11k** » 14 Mar 2007, 17:25

That's how it works since 73b1 or so.

Trepan: what would that apply to, the whole unit or the corpse or what?

Post by **trepan** » 14 Mar 2007, 17:32

It applies to units, and it isn't just for death animations (ex: it makes
teleporters relatively easy to create). I have separate calls (in lua),
for controlling feature positions, health, resurrections, etc...

Test screenshot (before I setup the midPos):
http://trepan.bzflag.bz/spring/override.jpg

Archangel of Death · Post by **Archangel of Death** » 15 Mar 2007, 04:15

Wait, are you saying you just made it possible to actually move a units physical position from it's script? Like I could make a ground unit fly up into the air, then come down for a nice, semi cushioned landing?

If so, omg...

Post by **trepan** » 15 Mar 2007, 04:55

MadRat · Post by **MadRat** » 15 Mar 2007, 05:06

Does the unit automatically locate on the surface if the heightmap is different in its new location? Say a unit is underwater and teleports to the land, then its not going to be subterranean, right?

Post by **trepan** » 15 Mar 2007, 05:45

It's configurable. I'll start a new thread to describe it when I'm done.
I'm fairly certain that you'll be pleased with what you can do with it

AF · Post by AF » 15 Mar 2007, 10:53

I'd love it if AI makers could use those diamond markers, they're so much better than peewees with texture corruption

Noruas · Post by **Noruas** » 15 Mar 2007, 18:04

omg is it possible to strafe or jump than?

KDR_11k · Post by **KDR_11k** » 15 Mar 2007, 18:39

Well, if you can somehow make the keys you have in first person mode convey all those actions...

Fanger · Post by **Fanger** » 15 Mar 2007, 19:17

anyone else think trepan is the man...

clearly trepan is descended from SJ himself, taught to always make awesome lua widgets, taught never to surrender.. that to make spring awesome is the greatest glory a dev can achieve.. Trepan, the greatest dev the world has ever known....

That or the 1000 lua widgets of the trepan empire descend upon you... Their feature list shall blot out the sun...

Archangel of Death · Post by **Archangel of Death** » 16 Mar 2007, 23:47

Trepan bleeds excess awesome just by existing! I need to go shiver in a corner while I contemplate the massive meaning of this revelation.

Spring RTS Engine

death animation and corpses.

death animation and corpses.