..First modeling attempt.

smoth · Post by **smoth** » 14 Mar 2007, 03:32

It is not really animation the script orientates parts to the target.

Snipawolf · Post by **Snipawolf** » 14 Mar 2007, 03:39

You are supposed to make it external, which saves it outside of your wings file, by going to Window -> Outliner and selecting your pieces and clicking on Make External. This will save it as an image file, and you should color this image file, cuz each piece is a face, and each face needs a texture.

UV Mapping just makes your model flat, so you can color it in.

NOTE: Make sure the name of the image you save it as is the same as the name of the image in window - outliner.

Caz · Post by **Caz** » 14 Mar 2007, 03:41

smoth wrote:It is not really animation the script orientates parts to the target.

I get it now :>

Caz · Post by **Caz** » 14 Mar 2007, 03:42

Snipawolf wrote:You are supposed to make it external, which saves it outside of your wings file, by going to Window -> Outliner and selecting your pieces and clicking on Make External. This will save it as an image file, and you should color this image file, cuz each piece is a face, and each face needs a texture.

UV Mapping just makes your model flat, so you can color it in.

NOTE: Make sure the name of the image you save it as is the same as the name of the image in window - outliner.

Do you make a seperate texture for each object or combine them and have one texture?

Caz · Post by **Caz** » 14 Mar 2007, 03:45

rattle wrote:It's pointing into the wrong direction. Should point in Z+ (where the blue line goes to ).

It has to point to Z? Why? :c

smoth · Post by **smoth** » 14 Mar 2007, 04:33

because otherwise you have to counter-adjust for orientation.

Caz · Post by **Caz** » 14 Mar 2007, 05:18

I have it almost done..

One thing I'm stuck on with the texture though.. It shows up black in the editor. I don't use photoshop, I use gimp and I heard you have to set the darkness or something to 99%? How would I do that? Thanks again :<

Caz · Post by **Caz** » 14 Mar 2007, 05:59

"The second thing we want to do to the texture is add an alpha layer and stick it at about 99% darkness, this makes sure spring displays it correctly, you can also draw lighter patches that will appear as team colour."

I can add an alpha layer.. but how do you "stick it at about 99% darkness" ??

SinbadEV · Post by **SinbadEV** » 14 Mar 2007, 06:09

If you are using Photoshop just fill the alpha layer with black-1 (theres a slider for the colour picker with a % and you set it to 99)

otherwise it's very very very very dark grey... as close as you can get to black without it actually being black...

KDR_11k · Post by **KDR_11k** » 14 Mar 2007, 07:43

99% darkness? Areas with no team color should be at 0, total black in the alpha channel. I know Gimp sucks too much to handle that so you need an extra prog called DxtBmp to combine the alpha and color afterwards. Photoshop doesn't provided you use the right exporters so you can just paint the alpha channel the way you want.

rattle · Post by **rattle** » 14 Mar 2007, 11:24

KDR_11k wrote:99% darkness? Areas with no team color should be at 0, total black in the alpha channel. I know Gimp sucks too much to handle that so you need an extra prog called DxtBmp to combine the alpha and color afterwards. Photoshop doesn't provided you use the right exporters so you can just paint the alpha channel the way you want.

Don't you mean at a black of 1?

KDR_11k · Post by **KDR_11k** » 14 Mar 2007, 13:36

No, Alpha 0. As opposed to 255 or 1.0.

rattle · Post by **rattle** » 14 Mar 2007, 14:11

But that will be solid team color ingame...

KDR_11k · Post by **KDR_11k** » 14 Mar 2007, 15:03

No, solid team color is 255, white.

FLOZi · Post by **FLOZi** » 14 Mar 2007, 15:07

KDR_11k wrote:No, solid team color is 255, white.

And also 0.

rattle · Post by **rattle** » 14 Mar 2007, 15:36

Exactly... 255 is a shade of 254 while 0 is a shade of 255. I don't get that logic and requested to fix it. Overlaying the parts which aren't team color with an alpha value of 1 still overlays it with team color, it's only very weak (but it can be noticed!).

KDR_11k · Post by **KDR_11k** » 14 Mar 2007, 17:27

Strange, I use 0 on my alphas and there's no problem with it.

rattle · Post by **rattle** » 14 Mar 2007, 17:57

GIMP or PS?

KDR_11k · Post by **KDR_11k** » 14 Mar 2007, 18:55

PS and DxtBmp, Gimp uses the image transparency as the alpha for tgas (which is the most retarded way of handling it and I recall there being a huge uproar about it when Photoshop tried that crap in 7.0, resulting in all later versions using alpha channels instead) which makes using alphas for team colors almost impossible.

rattle · Post by **rattle** » 14 Mar 2007, 19:40

Hmm yes, you couldn't strip 32 bit images from their alpha channel. I had to export anything I'd like to work a little bit more with as DDS and then reopen it. The DDS plugin was the only thing which has a dialog which offers seperate alpha channels.

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..First modeling attempt.