Spring reboots!

Echo35 · Post by **Echo35** » 17 Feb 2007, 04:58

I had Spring for a while and enjoyed playing it a lot. Upon upgrading to my 64 bit version of Windows however, I can no longer play. I can open the battle room just fine, set up settings, host, and even launch the game. Everything works just like it should until about 10-15 seconds into the game. Suddenly, without warning, my computer reboots. I'm not talking, game freezes and I have to reboot. No, by machine actually reboots. Nothing at all is different in my machine except that I now use Windows XP Professional 64-Bit instead of the XP Home Edition I was using before. Please help!

EDIT: I downloaded the GPL client and it works! I don't know why, but it does. Only problem is that I have no mouse icon or unit textures. Is there a separate place to download this? It works with Nano Blobs because it has it's own texture pack, but it won't work with AA, TA, or BA since they all use the same texture pack. Is this issue because of a problem with the textures?

ZellSF · Post by **ZellSF** » 17 Feb 2007, 10:55

I very much doubt it, probably an issue with your hardware, or more likely seeing as you claim it's a 64-bit problem, your drivers.

Check your event log or disable restart on bsod to see what error message you get before reboot.

LordMatt · Post by **LordMatt** » 17 Feb 2007, 15:43

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Peet · Post by **Peet** » 17 Feb 2007, 18:08

That doesnt fix the main problem, Matt ^^

LordMatt · Post by **LordMatt** » 17 Feb 2007, 18:32

YAITDOES

At least the problem with lacking the OTA content.

Echo35 · Post by **Echo35** » 18 Feb 2007, 04:19

It's not lacking content that's the issue. The issue is when I actually get the content, my computer reboots. I figured out that when I get the GPL client and install the mods separately, they all work, with the exception that they have no textures. As soon as I load any textures however, it reboots my computer. I'm failing to understand why something as benign as a graphical texture could cause an entire computer to reboot. Seems odd. Then again, so is Java.

EDIT: My apologies. When I download the installer from the link above, it works perfectly, no crashing or rebooting at all. At least my issue is fixed, but I think that's a bug you guys should look into, because when I get the normal client, it reboots my PC, but not when I get it separately like you instructed. Definitely shouldn't be doing that.

Peet · Post by **Peet** » 18 Feb 2007, 04:33

The DeViL libraries (and everything else for that matter) probably needs to be recompiled for x64 architectures.

Tobi · Post by **Tobi** » 18 Feb 2007, 08:50

x64 is capable of running x86 binaries, I've had a mixed architecture Linux install for a while. Not 100% sure about Windows tho, but I'd expect the same. (esp. since apparently Spring works a bit)

ZellSF · Post by **ZellSF** » 18 Feb 2007, 20:54

Echo35 wrote:It's not lacking content that's the issue. The issue is when I actually get the content, my computer reboots. I figured out that when I get the GPL client and install the mods separately, they all work, with the exception that they have no textures. As soon as I load any textures however, it reboots my computer. I'm failing to understand why something as benign as a graphical texture could cause an entire computer to reboot. Seems odd. Then again, so is Java.

EDIT: My apologies. When I download the installer from the link above, it works perfectly, no crashing or rebooting at all. At least my issue is fixed, but I think that's a bug you guys should look into, because when I get the normal client, it reboots my PC, but not when I get it separately like you instructed. Definitely shouldn't be doing that.

Why exactly do you think it's not a hardware issue?

Echo35 · Post by **Echo35** » 19 Feb 2007, 05:02

Well, I thought it wasn't a hardware because all the other mods worked fine, just the OTA content made it reboot (which it started doing again by the way). However, today, I was playing Star Craft and it did the same thing until I disabled dual core support for it, so now I'm thinking it is a hardware issue. The only thing I've changed between now and the last time however is the 64-bit os, so it's most likely some sort of compatibility issue right?

DJ · Post by DJ » 23 Feb 2007, 11:27

I think the reason the PC actually rebooted is becuase its setup to do that in windows.

If you go My Computer -> Properties -> Advanced and goto the startup and recovery settings you'll probably find the Automatic Restart tick box ticked. This is really un helpful as it hides the BSOD and makes the pc just appear to reboot.

If you get probs like this again try unticking this box as it'll allow you to see if it's a driver causing the problem.

AF · Post by AF » 23 Feb 2007, 11:58

And now that Blue screens of death show on your PC rather than immediatly rebooting, you can write down what it says and google it for the solution/fix.

ZellSF · Post by **ZellSF** » 23 Feb 2007, 18:17

I've already told him to check that message. You don't need to disable restart to do that, you can just check your event log which I'm guessing is easier to copy paste to a search engine than actually writing down stuff on another computer, or even worse, paper.

Echo35 · Post by **Echo35** » 25 Feb 2007, 06:19

You're right. The reboot box was checked. After I unchecked it, it just crashes out with a generic error and a link to the infolog file:

Map: SmallDivide.smf
Mod: "Absolute Annihilation 2.23 (H)" from AASH223.sdz
Number of damage types: 41
Spring 0.74b3
Reloaded ctrlpanel with: LuaUI/ctrlpanel.txt
LuaUI: bound F11 to the widget selector
LuaUI: bound CTRL+F11 to tweak mode
LuaUI v0.1
Player Echo35 joined as 0
AI/Bot-libs/KAI-0.12.dll has C++ interface
AI has enabled cheating.
GlobalAI1: KAI Metal Class by Krogothe
GlobalAI1: Metal Spots loaded from file
GlobalAI1: Metal Spots Found 24
GlobalAI1: UnitTable loaded in 0.000005s
GlobalAI1: Time Taken to create chokepoints: 0.020598
Spring 0.74b3 has crashed.
Exception: Access violation (0xc0000005)
Exception Address: 0x000303de
DLL information:
0x00400000 spring
0x7d600000 ntdll
0x7d4c0000 kernel32
0x77f50000 ADVAPI32
0x7da20000 RPCRT4
0x73e50000 dsound
0x77ba0000 msvcrt
0x77670000 ole32
0x7d800000 GDI32
0x7d930000 USER32
0x77b90000 VERSION
0x76aa0000 WINMM
0x68720000 GLU32
0x5e8d0000 OPENGL32
0x73860000 DDRAW
0x73b30000 DCIMAN32
0x76c10000 IMAGEHLP
0x71bb0000 WSOCK32
0x71c00000 WS2_32
0x71bf0000 WS2HELP
0x10000000 SDL
0x7c340000 MSVCR71
0x00bb0000 DevIL
0x66fc0000 freetype6
0x61b80000 zlib1
0x00d40000 glew32
0x71af0000 ShimEng
0x75e60000 apphelp
0x715c0000 AcLayers
0x7c8d0000 SHELL32
0x00ec0000 SHLWAPI
0x76920000 USERENV
0x73070000 WINSPOOL
0x71640000 AcGenral
0x00f80000 OLEAUT32
0x77b70000 MSACM32
0x7df50000 UxTheme
0x7dbd0000 comctl32
0x4b8d0000 MSCTF
0x69500000 nvogl32
0x7db30000 mswsock
0x5f270000 hnetcfg
0x71ae0000 wshtcpip
0x76ed0000 DNSAPI
0x76f70000 winrnr
0x76f10000 WLDAP32
0x76f80000 rasadhlp
0x72d70000 wdmaud
0x76bb0000 WINTRUST
0x761b0000 CRYPT32
0x76190000 MSASN1
0x72d60000 msacm32
0x77b60000 midimap
0x73e20000 KsUser
0x0c110000 KAI-0.12
0x6d580000 dbghelp
Stacktrace:
(0) Unknown [0x000303DE]
(1) C:\Program Files (x86)\Spring\AI\Bot-libs\KAI-0.12.dll(GetAiName+0x9982) [0x0C140412]
(2) C:\Program Files (x86)\Spring\AI\Bot-libs\KAI-0.12.dll [0x0C119170]
(3) C:\Program Files (x86)\Spring\spring.exe [0x004D359A]
(4) C:\Program Files (x86)\Spring\spring.exe(UnitDef_GetBuildOption+0x2659) [0x004DBEB1]
(5) C:\Program Files (x86)\Spring\spring.exe(UnitDef_GetBuildOption+0x114b8) [0x004EAD10]
(6) C:\Program Files (x86)\Spring\spring.exe(UnitDef_GetBuildOption+0x1359c) [0x004ECDF4]
(7) C:\Program Files (x86)\Spring\spring.exe(UnitDef_GetBuildOption+0x23aa6e) [0x007142C6]
(8) C:\Program Files (x86)\Spring\spring.exe(UnitDef_GetBuildOption+0x24033e) [0x00719B96]
(9) C:\Program Files (x86)\Spring\spring.exe(UnitDef_GetBuildOption+0x2406fa) [0x00719F52]
(10) C:\Program Files (x86)\Spring\spring.exe(UnitDef_GetBuildOption+0x24089a) [0x0071A0F2]
(11) C:\Program Files (x86)\Spring\spring.exe(UnitDef_GetBuildOption+0x2bcb8d) [0x007963E5]
(12) C:\Program Files (x86)\Spring\spring.exe [0x00401092]
(13) C:\Program Files (x86)\Spring\spring.exe [0x0040110F]
(14) C:\WINDOWS\syswow64\kernel32.dll(BaseProcessInitPostImport+0x8d) [0x7D4E992A]

Post by **Kloot** » 25 Feb 2007, 14:27

That is a bug in the version of KAI shipped with the 0.74b3 installer, please replace it with the one linked to here.

Echo35 · Post by **Echo35** » 25 Feb 2007, 17:37

I did that, and it worked for a while (about 10-15 minutes) then it blue screened again, this time giving me:

p17filtx.sys
PAGE_FAULT_IN_NON_PAGED_AREA

I've also had odd problems with lots of older games (Starcraft, System Shock 2) so I was thinking about just reformatting and seeing what happens.

DJ · Post by DJ » 26 Feb 2007, 10:11

do you have a 7900gt graphics card?

KDR_11k · Post by **KDR_11k** » 26 Feb 2007, 11:32

Page fault in non paged area usually happens when your RAM is bad.

Echo35 · Post by **Echo35** » 26 Feb 2007, 22:01

DJ wrote:do you have a 7900gt graphics card?

7950 GTX2, from EVGA. Only game this is happening to. I got Starcraft and my other old titles to work by disabling dual core support, but spring still acts up.

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