New Map - Charlie in the Hills

Dufus · Post by **Dufus** » 21 Jan 2007, 05:07

COULDN'T POST LINK TO MAP OR SCREENIES CAUSE I'M A NEWBIE. IT'S UPLOADED ON UNKOWN FILES SO JUST SEARCH FOR CHARLIE K GO!

First off all credits to creation of this map goto Ralphie. He's done a mighty fine job creating such a beautiful map. I just came up with the concept.

So what is the concept......we really set out to create a map that required solid team play rather than a series of 1 v 1 battles on a 4v4 map. We've added some innovative features to help with team play and gameplay.

This map is designed for a 4v4 battle but can accomodate 5v5 or 3v3. Ideally there should be two players who start up the front. One player who is semi-protected by a lake and has the most metal spots to build an uber economy. This player should also assist at the front lines, provide troops for air drops and defend against other air drops. Finally there is an elevated platform which will require the person who starts on it to go air. All players will need to work together to fend off attacks or provide the decisive blow.

One of the major thrusts of the map is to promote the extensive use of air drops (something which is greatly overlooked as a tactic these days). There are 4 zones for large air drops. Two for kbots, one for amphibious (and hovers if they could get airlifted) and one for vehicles. The terrain has also been designed to allow relatively safe passage for the transports and to avoid ground based anti-air. Middle is resonably open allowing for some nice tank engagements.

So please throw some feed back at us on ways to improve/change the map.

hunterw · Post by **hunterw** » 21 Jan 2007, 06:15

I HEP U OUT

http://spring.unknown-files.net/file/21 ... the_Hills/

these screenshots are fawking huge

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genblood · Post by **genblood** » 21 Jan 2007, 07:17

I like the map, but the player starting positions could be better.
Player 1 is right next to player 2 ... You might think about giving
the players more room to expand.

mufdvr222 · Post by **mufdvr222** » 21 Jan 2007, 07:56

I particularly like the texture you used on the mountains, nice map.

Goolash_ · Post by **Goolash_** » 21 Jan 2007, 08:17

great concept and very well done.
one thing though - the metal placement might be better... the entire sides are metal free and there's no metal in the unreachable areas for the air players to fight over.

but overall - seems like a great map which forces great team play to win. Good job.

hunterw · Post by **hunterw** » 21 Jan 2007, 09:30

Dufus wrote:we really set out to create a map that required solid team play rather than a series of 1 v 1 battles on a 4v4 map.

i've never had a 4v4 really feel like that, but i digress

i want to play a match on this one soon, because i like the ideas a lot - particularly the airdrop spots on the outsides. the only thing i would recommend, as has already been said, would be metal spots out in the spiky mountain area for the air players to expand to and fight over. I might also make the mountains a bit less spiky...but not to where any land unit could walk around on them better than they already can.

i found about five places to build defenders (there are probably much more for building flak), but i bet AA structures will miss all the time since they have those spike mountains blocking their shots from all directions. also, planes fly over the mountains themselves varying their altitude constantly. having fighter aircraft battling groups of air transports might be weird due to this.

ralphie · Post by **ralphie** » 21 Jan 2007, 11:50

I left the sides with no metal to try and minimize its value; if there's no metal there players wouldn't be as inclined to defend it, thus leaving it a bit more open to air.

I tried a .nocost air fight on the mountains, they didn't see to have too much trouble shooting each other down.

That said the main use of air in games so far has been bomber spam

edit: ta for posting the links, apparently i need to post more before I can be a non-viagra selling spammer.

Saktoth · Post by **Saktoth** » 21 Jan 2007, 12:20

Great concept: Ive always wanted to see a dedicated air player on a sealed off portion of the map, and i love real team games.

You might have a problem with people fighting over the porc and air spot, especially noobs and speedmetal heros who try to tech to krog (a problem on tangerine). This is alleviated by the fact that a good player going on the front actually has, potentially, many more metal spots- if he expands fast enough (Which good players do).

It looks very vechy too. Adding kbot, hover, amhpib or ship routes and mex spots would add role diversification and increase the requirement of cooperation. Remember, almost half the units in the game area sea units! You like transports, but give hover, amphib and sea transports some love too! Those bodies of water arent really enough to encourage much use of hovers or amphibs- you need to cross that large expanse of flash-friendly landscape to reach them.

I can really see bombing raids pwning this map too. Those mountains help transports- but they are very close to the bases, and that also helps bombers!

Still, it looks fun. Ill have to play it and see if any of this speculation is true.

bamb · Post by **bamb** » 21 Jan 2007, 19:37

Heh, sharp mountains there!

Will the next map be named Lucy in the Sky?

LordMatt · Post by **LordMatt** » 21 Jan 2007, 19:41

Looks very nice.

Saktoth · Post by **Saktoth** » 22 Jan 2007, 08:11

Gave it a shot: It plays really fast, like somewhere between Comet Catcher and Altored.

Having the air player really adds another dimension to it. Usually air is 'optional'. often a second or third fac, so you arent sure when to build AA, and how much. On this map you know that you have a dedicated air opponent- so its an integrated part of your strategy. Bomber rushes are very effective, though ive yet to see effective use of the transport spots (Usually its too fast paced at the front for people to bother).

rattle · Post by **rattle** » 22 Jan 2007, 16:19

Charlie? Doesn't that refer to vietnamnese people? :P

j5mello · Post by **j5mello** » 22 Jan 2007, 16:40

obviously not its that guy down the street from you

Dufus · Post by **Dufus** » 23 Jan 2007, 03:14

rattle wrote:Charlie? Doesn't that refer to vietnamnese people?

In a round about way. Americans called the Viet Cong, VC, which in military talk is Victor Charlie. Since then the term "Charlie" has been generalised to mean any "enemy".

hunterw · Post by **hunterw** » 24 Jan 2007, 05:10

I just noticed something

this map should be rotated 90 degrees to the left, and be named HappyCow

ralphie · Post by **ralphie** » 24 Jan 2007, 13:31

I can't say I have noticed this previously

Foxomaniac · Post by **Foxomaniac** » 24 Jan 2007, 16:54

lol @ hunter's post.

The resemblance is shocking.

1v0ry_k1ng · Post by **1v0ry_k1ng** » 29 Jan 2007, 13:10

this map is the own. should add a metal spot or two in the hills to benefit going air

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