Don't castrate me, its my second try....

Snipawolf · Post by **Snipawolf** » 14 Jan 2007, 04:11

I tried to draw my favorite character from FF7, this is my second drawing of a person, all of the others are sketches of tanks, weapons, etc.

I think i did okay, the only person I had help from was myself, no books, guides, or anything helpful...

I did get the picture idea from Vincent's pose in the FF7 manual, but his legs wouldn't work out, so I had to split 'em up.

BTW, I don't like trying to use GIMP to spiff it up any, I might color, but other than that I won't be able to do anything useful..

Without further stalling for... I mean ado, I bring you my drawing.

LOrDo · Post by **LOrDo** » 14 Jan 2007, 06:49

lawl.

smoth · Post by **smoth** » 14 Jan 2007, 06:53

actually I find the style charming in a way. Sort of like Cyborg 009..

Zoombie · Post by **Zoombie** » 14 Jan 2007, 06:53

No offence, but you need to work on your proportions...badly. The arms are too stunty and the legs look all wrong. There are some nice tutorials on the internet. Free ones! Go find them, via google!

rattle · Post by **rattle** » 14 Jan 2007, 09:34

I'm gonna bring the pliers... you gonna get castrated!

Snipawolf · Post by **Snipawolf** » 14 Jan 2007, 16:36

Alright, I drew these two last night (maybe an hour each or so?) and I think they look good, some day I may gimp them and give them the colors that they had in the games, but not right now.

I may just go look for those tutorials, Zoombie...

Kudos to those that know who both of them are.

My 3rd drawing:

My 4th drawing:

rattle · Post by **rattle** » 14 Jan 2007, 16:40

Is the lower one from Lodoss or some other anime? I remember the sword... although he looks like he's more worried about his nuts. Perhaps your way of expressing fear from what I'm still about to do.

Snipawolf · Post by **Snipawolf** » 14 Jan 2007, 16:42

lol, rattle, not funny...

Nope...

Edit: BTW, think RPG when trying to think of these guys :D

Edit2: I might need a tutorial for feet, but for someone who drew those three in a row the other night (breaking only to scan one, then sleep afterwards) I can say I have gotten a WHOLE LOT better from my first picture...

SwiftSpear · Post by **SwiftSpear** » 14 Jan 2007, 22:04

You need to think of things and draw things as 3 dimensional objects, rather then 2D. This is especially hard for complex things that we don't usually think about in the 3D mindset, the human figure for instance, but seriously, once you start down that path your art improves in leaps and bounds.

Some tips: the human head isn't an oval, it's flesh over a skull. draw the round of the head first and then add the jaw shape on, then after that smooth everything out and put the facial features where they should be.

The body is somewhere between 5-9 heads high (the more heads high you make the character the more massive and strong they will look, less will give a more youthful extending towards a cartoony look) On a normal human the legs take up half the body height. Arms straighted extend to the center of the thigh on a standing adult. Hands are roughly the same size as the face (depending how many heads tall the character is), although they can be larger as well.

The hardest part of character drawing IMO is memorizing all the human figure anatomy stuff so that you put the right muscles in the right place. It really is just memorization, it's really difficult learn it entirely by trial and error.

[edit] I hate drawing feet and hands, especially bare feet, there's alot of crap that goes into them. I always end up erasing and redrawing feet and hands like 5 times before I'm happy with them.

TheRegisteredOne · Post by **TheRegisteredOne** » 15 Jan 2007, 01:00

"Must Protect Nut Sack!"

They are nice. but you gonna work on the proportions a lil. more specificly, the legs are short. unless you are going for that style, then no problems there. :D

AF · Post by AF » 15 Jan 2007, 01:13

Buy plain paper and try some pencil shading.

Snipawolf · Post by **Snipawolf** » 15 Jan 2007, 01:14

Well, if that is where his nuts are, then his legs look long enough to be correctly sized...

Well, noone guessed yet...

Lloyd from Legend of Dragoon was the third one, and Vinsfeld Rhadamanthus from Wild Arms 2 was my fourth one.

Edit: Yeah, I will, I have plenty of printer paper lying around, which is all white and fits pretty well into the scanner slot :D

So I'll try some shading stuff out.

AF · Post by AF » 15 Jan 2007, 01:23

And try to put yourself in his shoes. Would you feel comfortable with a giant cloak that sticks out? My nose would get very itchy and uncomfortable with a giant tuft of hair covering it with no other hair on my face.

SwiftSpear · Post by **SwiftSpear** » 15 Jan 2007, 08:11

In the pic with the guy with the ugly sword his legs are the right size, but the knees are too low, and the arms are too short, with the elbows being WAY too low. In order to make that pose with the sword coming up to waste level he would need to bow his arms at approximately 45 degrees at the elbow. To do it straight armed the sword would either need to be a fair ways infront of him (which would make the hands appear differently and constitute different shadowing as well as making the impact point of the ground a fair bit further forward and down as opposed to between his feet) or the sword would need to only come up to the upper half of his thighs.

The feet aren't flaps that come off the legs. At the bottom of the legs there is no musculiture and just tendons, the feet connect below this with a bony connector ridge. Feet extend behind the legs (in the heel) and infront (with the toes) The small toes kind of pancake on the outside side of the foot, where the big toe is almost directly connected to the leg via a thick pipe like structure. I'd love to draw some basic tutorial sheets, especially since the ones at that art tutorial site that everyone loves are so utterly non-communicative, but doing so would require unstacking shit off my scanner, far to much effort.

Snipawolf · Post by **Snipawolf** » 15 Jan 2007, 18:12

I know how horrible my stuff is, thats why I made the topic with its name, lol...

Thanks for all the helpful criticism, I'm still going to find a tutorial for feet though....

Edit: Forgot about AF's questions... The cape? Yeah, capes are cool, and keep you warm. The hair tuft? I dunno, I never had hair longer than 2 inches before...

Guessmyname · Post by **Guessmyname** » 15 Jan 2007, 18:31

Snipa, you might find this useful:

http://www.polykarbon.com/tutorials/index.htm

Snipawolf · Post by **Snipawolf** » 15 Jan 2007, 19:53

Thanks a bunch, I'm just skimmin and all of this looks very useful..

SwiftSpear · Post by **SwiftSpear** » 16 Jan 2007, 17:08

Ya, that's the tutorials I mean. Poly's tutorials are pretty abysmal... He draws a pretty mean comic book character but I really don't think he understands how he's doing it, he just kind of does it.

LathanStanley · Post by **LathanStanley** » 16 Jan 2007, 18:14

This is about as SIMPLE and down to easy, as laymans terms can come to help you fix your proportions...

and the guy had an eyepatch if I remember right..

http://www.animatedbuzz.com/tutorials/proportion.html

jackalope · Post by **jackalope** » 16 Jan 2007, 19:33

lawl cute

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Don't castrate me, its my second try....

Don't castrate me, its my second try....