Argh, when you import the models back into UPSWING, what format are you using to maintain object pieces?
And I found this file converter to make DDS files. I still cannot get Upswing to show the correct textures no matter what I change the files. Could you explain alpha channel in regards to using gimp?
DDS converter--->http://eliteforce2.filefront.com/file/D ... 2#Download
Upspring 1.54
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http://registry.gimp.org/plugin?id=4816
Anyhow, it seems to work no problem for me on Windows XP.
http://registry.gimp.org/plugin?id=4816
Anyhow, it seems to work no problem for me on Windows XP.
Hi Maestromaestro wrote:hi mehere...
is the complete installer of GIMP really only 7MB ?
Is free and small program for pictures and textures. Can make many things
http://www.photofiltre.com/
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maestro:
Yes it is. Here is a link to all the files you would need to install the windows version (someone else did the compling and uploaded the installers for the public):
http://gimp-win.sourceforge.net/stable.html
DDS plugin for gimp: Note: I asked on the Gimp forms for a DDS plugin and this is what they directed me to. The one mehere101 posted is not the same, and i'm not sure if works as well as the one I have. Anyways here is the plugin the fellow Gimp users recommened:
http://nifelheim.dyndns.org/~cocidius/dds/
Yes it is. Here is a link to all the files you would need to install the windows version (someone else did the compling and uploaded the installers for the public):
http://gimp-win.sourceforge.net/stable.html
DDS plugin for gimp: Note: I asked on the Gimp forms for a DDS plugin and this is what they directed me to. The one mehere101 posted is not the same, and i'm not sure if works as well as the one I have. Anyways here is the plugin the fellow Gimp users recommened:
http://nifelheim.dyndns.org/~cocidius/dds/
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hughperkins
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Jelmer,
S3o is nice to work with, easy to load.
Question: could it be possible to integrate support for level of detail into it? Much of the time we're viewing the models from high above the terrain.
It could be enough to have two levels: an fps-optimized level, where we're really close, and an overheadta-optimized level, where we're quite far away.
The advantage is that scenes with hundreds of S3O tanks would render smoothly, and everyone would switch to the new format
S3o is nice to work with, easy to load.
Question: could it be possible to integrate support for level of detail into it? Much of the time we're viewing the models from high above the terrain.
It could be enough to have two levels: an fps-optimized level, where we're really close, and an overheadta-optimized level, where we're quite far away.
The advantage is that scenes with hundreds of S3O tanks would render smoothly, and everyone would switch to the new format
Unfortunately that is NOT the case...hughperkins wrote:Jelmer,
S3o is nice to work with, easy to load.
Question: could it be possible to integrate support for level of detail into it? Much of the time we're viewing the models from high above the terrain.
It could be enough to have two levels: an fps-optimized level, where we're really close, and an overheadta-optimized level, where we're quite far away.
The advantage is that scenes with hundreds of S3O tanks would render smoothly, and everyone would switch to the new format
the main cause of slowdown with hundreds tank is not 3D or graphic stuff, but pathfinding programs... LOD wont help....
Personally I would prefer to keep RTS as RTS (remove the First Person View) and limited magnification. THis game is not FPS shooter and such feature compel some designer to create unnecessarily complex object just so player can see the left ankle of their kbot fulfil the entire screen and still looks good
thx.... I tried latest version and dont work at all (freeze everytime it scanning fontTA 3D wrote:maestro:
Yes it is. Here is a link to all the files you would need to install the windows version (someone else did the compling and uploaded the installers for the public):
http://gimp-win.sourceforge.net/stable.html
DDS plugin for gimp: Note: I asked on the Gimp forms for a DDS plugin and this is what they directed me to. The one mehere101 posted is not the same, and i'm not sure if works as well as the one I have. Anyways here is the plugin the fellow Gimp users recommened:
http://nifelheim.dyndns.org/~cocidius/dds/
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Yes, agreed. However that could change.maestro wrote:Unfortunately that is NOT the case...
the main cause of slowdown with hundreds tank is not 3D or graphic stuff, but pathfinding programs... LOD wont help....
S3O is a relatively new standard, and it could be easier to tweak it now to accept level of detail, than to create a new standard in a year or two once the pathfinder is optimized.
I'm definitely planning on having automatic model LOD (Maybe even VIPM but otherwise just some static lod levels) in osrts, but I don't work on spring anymore. Look at the s3o/3do code and you know whyS3o is nice to work with, easy to load.
Question: could it be possible to integrate support for level of detail into it? Much of the time we're viewing the models from high above the terrain.
It could be enough to have two levels: an fps-optimized level, where we're really close, and an overheadta-optimized level, where we're quite far away.
The advantage is that scenes with hundreds of S3O tanks would render smoothly, and everyone would switch to the new format
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hughperkins
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Ok. Just so you know, my interest in this is that S3Os are also used for features.jcnossen wrote:I'm definitely planning on having automatic model LOD (Maybe even VIPM but otherwise just some static lod levels) in osrts,
Have you seen this map: http://taspring.clan-sy.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=7760 ?
Awesome looking map; terrible frame-rate.
An S3O format with LoD could allow awesome-looking maps which run flawlessly.
Does this mean osrts wont be using S3Os? What will osrts use?but I don't work on spring anymore. Look at the s3o/3do code and you know why
Edit: edited to remove comment on s3o vs 3do.
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those are all s3o features though...hughperkins wrote:
Have you seen this map: http://taspring.clan-sy.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=7760 ?
Awesome looking map; terrible frame-rate. That's a limitation of the current 3DO format.
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