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Re: Joining the Army (Reserves)

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SpikedHelmet wrote:I'm going to be joining (or attempting to join...) the Army soon. Reserves to be exact (hells no I ain't signing my life away for the next 7 years). Can anyone give me any hints and advice as to what it's like at first?
First, for even thinking of volunteering for such a thing... You have my respect. You are willing to sign away upwards of half a decade of your life, to obey the direct orders of people you never even met.

I did sign up for the USAF two years ago. Unfortuantley due to some serious health problems I never made it through, but I can offer you a hell of a lot of advice and stories from basic training.

There are two parts to basic traning, Physical and mental. If you can do ~35 *real* pushups, run at a fast pace for 30+ minutes non stop, you pretty much have it made. As far as the mental part of it... Are you the type that can stand there and listen to your boss/manager go on and on about what you need to do, when you need to get that done etc? Im not sure if I was or not, before I left.

You will arrive in the base, and it should hit you in the face like a brick. The "what in the hell did I sign myself up for" reality. Its 2:00am, ive been up since 5:00am the day before, People with arms as big around as my legs pointing where we go, in voices loud enough to rupture ear drums.

We lined up outside some building, and sized outselves in. Unfortunatley for me, being 6'6"... I got to be in the front, just a foot or two away from the Drill seargents.... Grreeaat. We were filed inside, sat down. They were going through papers, called our names. Get up, grab the paper, and go and sit in another room and wait some more... Lots of waiting.

What seems like about after 3 years of sitting, we get piled into a bus, which takes us to our training squadron. Pile out of the bus, our TI is waiting there for us, yelling for us to hurry up and get upstairs. we pick a bed/locker, he tells us to unpack our crap and get to sleep.

I could have sworn that not a moment after my head hit the pillow, I heard a bugle screaming reveille (http://www.usscouts.org/mb/bugle_calls.html), followed by the TI yelling in a gruff voice "GET UP GET UP GET UP". Im still in the "What the hell did I sign up for" panic mode.

I could probably go on for ages and ages... but ill shorten it up.

The first week is spent mostly marching from here to there, setting up direct-deposit pay, getting your issued uniforms and clothing, hair-cut (shave-job), shots etc. This week was called "zero week". By the first week, our TI started cutting us some slack. basically left us an hour or two before lights-out, because he was saying something about how he had a family and never got to see them. We would wake up and form up outside without him, which was a hell of a lot less stressfull.

If your going to go, I would reccomend being sure you can not only meet the minimum requirements, but by far exceed them... That makes things far far easier.

Memorise facing movements, rank and insignia, and practice saluting infront of a mirror if possible. If you have any other questions, you can get to me by PM. Depending on the reasons you want to go, the military could be the best or worst experiance in your life.
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Post by Zoombie »

Sounds like marching band without the fun, music, marching and freindly instructors.
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Post by grumpy_Bastard »

Zoombie wrote:Sounds like marching band without the fun, music, marching and freindly instructors.
I guess its hard to explain it, or understand it without actually going through it.
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Post by Zoombie »

Thats true. And just so you know how much of a coward I am, I really really really DON'T want to find out. I'll leave the armying to others, and just stick with what I can do best.

Now to find out what that is...
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I find it funny how espylaub obliterated the american pro-war front just like that...

...Seriously tho, all of you who are for this war need to straighten your senses. Just try to start reading up some "dissident" media reporting to get the whole picture, it will be pretty obvious after a while that your current course of action is wrong and immoral and is founded on a very long history of immoral foreign policy. I'm not saying that the US is (fundamentally) worse than any other countries existing now or in history, but as they supposedly represent democracy and freedom as well as being the most powerful nation in the world they have a responisibility and they are sure as hell not living up to it.

A little tidbit about the nukes. America cripples Iraq 1991, then invades it 2003 with little real evidence or real attempt at diplomacy (we all know by now that is was just fluff, disinformation) simply because the decided to. To countries like Iran and North Korea, a nuke is probably the safest deterrant.

Another small thing about "why the terrorists hate you": It is widely known that America supports Israel militarically and economically without any real reason. Out of all the US allies, Israel is probably the only one who does what the hell it wants and completely disregards US recommendations when it "needs" to. They treat their arab neighbours like complete shit and they came there in the late 1940ies after a 2000 year absense to a land that was not theirs anymore and have since grabbed huge amounts of land and basically made living conditions very poor for the arabs. If the US would force Israel to live up to international standards and listen to the UN by threatening to cut support they would have the middle east eons closer to peace in a week...
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Post by Felix the Cat »

Centurion illustrates perfectly why I dislike partisans on all sides of a debate.

Centurion sums it up nicely with this statement.
centurion-1 wrote:...Seriously tho, all of you who are for this war need to straighten your senses. Just try to start reading up some "dissident" media reporting to get the whole picture, it will be pretty obvious after a while that your current course of action is wrong and immoral and is founded on a very long history of immoral foreign policy.
This illustrates a belief common to hard-core partisans on all sides of the political spectrum, whether they are Libertarian Party hacks or Communists, whether they are far-right neoconservatives or far-left liberal peaceniks. The belief is that any given person, if they only knew what the partisan knew, would naturally support the partisan's position. This is a corollary of the partisan's belief that his position is the only correct one.

I am active within libertarian circles, and it is exactly this sort of thinking that is why I am not a member of the Libertarian Party and why I generally don't vote Libertarian. I am an advocate of realism and compromise, rather than idealism and "principled" stances, and the mentality illustrated in Centurion's post is one that does not accept compromise because to compromise would be to admit some element rightness to the other side's position, and Centurion's mentality is that his side is the only correct one.

I don't feel like I'm communicating very well, so I'll stop here. I hope you can see what I'm saying.

As far as Israel, I support Israel because it is the only true representative democracy in the Middle East, and because it has historically been the defender state against attacks by its neighbors. I don't think that anyone has an absolute RIGHT to the land simply by virtue of being Jewish or Arab; Israel fought for the land that it occupies on four separate occasions, and hence it has the best claim to the land, until someone who can defeat Israel comes along. In my opinion, it is in the best interests of the United States and the world for Israel to exist rather than yet another Muslim tin-pot dictatorship like we see across the Muslim world. However, I admit that this is only my opinion, based on the information that is available to me and my personal analysis of this information. Unlike Centurion, I do not claim to possess The One And Only Truth, and I will not ridicule the other side for not recognizing that I possess said Truth.
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Felix the Cat wrote:I don't feel like I'm communicating very well, so I'll stop here. I hope you can see what I'm saying.
Your post was well put together and it looks like you've put in effort to keep it nuetral, you've communicated your point quite clearly, no need to stop. :-)

centurion-1 wrote:America cripples Iraq 1991, then invades it 2003 with little real evidence or real attempt at diplomacy
Im not going to bother replying to your whole post, except for this part. I do not condone nor tolerate the trolling you are doing, but I cant leave this issue alone. America is two whole continents, which make come as a shock to you. If you are referring to the area and its inhabitants between canada and mexico, its name is USA.
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Post by Das Bruce »

Zoombie wrote:Sounds like marching band without the fun, music, marching and freindly instructors.
Oh theres LOTS of marching, drill builds character.
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Post by Zoombie »

I meant the marching as in forms and sets and resets and such. Like making a ELP on the feild while playing Karn Evil 9! Those are the days...marching band is fun <stumbles off in a daze of nostalgia and marching band nerdyness>
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I agree Felix. There's very little point in trying to convince someone to "understand it from the other side". I used to think and feel that way. Then I realized that it doesn't achieve anything -- it's best to simply go ahead with your own morality and extrajudicially execute any dissidents, counter-revolutionaries and enemies of the people that get in the way of the revolution.
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SpikedHelmet's post made me laugh.
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Post by j5mello »

sry to derail this thread :roll: but did anyone catch the New Simpsons episode last night where Homer joined the army? Damn funny :lol: :arrow:

(After Homer and his squad flee the wargames, by hiding in Springfield)
Sergeant: "But sir we don't have any authority to invade a US city."

Major: "Yes we do. The Republicans slipped it into the National Broccoli Day Bill." (pulls out a piece of paper with National Broccoli Day on it)

Sergeant: "Oh I was wondering why you were carrying that around. Thought we were gonna have a party or something..."
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Post by Min3mat »

:lol: now thats what we like to hear in off topic threads!
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