Light Borg recon hovercraft (Cuboid class). Only 11640 triangles.
I could've sworn this looks like a piece of soap or butter.
Model Competition (high poly models of vehicles)
Moderators: MR.D, Moderators
Nah the assified version of my precious combat tank... this is serious model contest!Argh wrote:Wait, wait... don't tell me, Rattle... next we'll have the 29,999-tri Death Star Replica?
No previews for 8 bit pngs with transparencies, sorry. :'(
High poly model
http://img110.imageshack.us/my.php?imag ... kediq7.png
4752 triangles (minus ca. 100 holes)
Low poly model
http://img162.imageshack.us/my.php?imag ... kayzk8.png
1304 triangles (minus ~16 holes)
UV map
Ingame shots. Did them because I begun work on the texture some days ago and they're both UV mapped. So why the hell not... :)
Can't see a shit of a difference when it's zoomed out. PS: texture is work in progress, don't mind it.
Anyway, the high poly model is really sloppy, just smooved some faces here and there and removed useless faces afterwards. It comes with eight treads (4 left/4 right) for animation of the tracks which means model got about 2412 polygons less... but we are making game models, aren't we.
Also it comes in multiple variants, hence the radar/turret clipping in each other.
Anyway, .obj/.wings are over here.
Oh yeah, this is not an invitation to start yet another discussion about high and low poly models. I'm actually contributing here.
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Optimus Prime
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1. if i understand the polygon count table right, it says 120494 polys where 30k was max.MR.D wrote:Did Wolf just win?
2. this is a VEHICLE competition
But very cool models!
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Optimus Prime
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its most fair if we have a limit for all designers, else one sees a model of someone, checks how much polys it has and just doubles the poly and make it more round, more detailed and at the end we would see every hair and every single bolt.
Also a 30k poly model can be used at least in other modern games like ut07 or half life 2.
If its wanted, we can make a really high model competition with 1 million polys at max, but we need a limit to make it fair for all.
BTW, i tested how my model will look with some textures and some background:
Also a 30k poly model can be used at least in other modern games like ut07 or half life 2.
If its wanted, we can make a really high model competition with 1 million polys at max, but we need a limit to make it fair for all.
BTW, i tested how my model will look with some textures and some background:
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Wolf-In-Exile
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Commendable effort, the lighting and rocks are well done but, imo a lazy job on the main vehicle texture itself.
Using the generic "tech metal" texture without any real details makes the model look messy and actually detracts from the details you modelled into it.
The nice bump mapped effect also won't translate into Spring, unfortunately.
Mr.D, you're spot on on that matter, I made it for a movie project.
Using the generic "tech metal" texture without any real details makes the model look messy and actually detracts from the details you modelled into it.
The nice bump mapped effect also won't translate into Spring, unfortunately.
Mr.D, you're spot on on that matter, I made it for a movie project.
That's the point of highpoly modeling. With great polycounts comes great responsibilityOptimus Prime wrote:its most fair if we have a limit for all designers, else one sees a model of someone, checks how much polys it has and just doubles the poly and make it more round, more detailed and at the end we would see every hair and every single bolt.
. High poly looks like this.No, not even close. Maybe for the big bad boss monster that is a level of its own but not for anything less. For those engines you make a 5-8k poly model and use a normalmap.Also a 30k poly model can be used at least in other modern games like ut07 or half life 2.
And your shots seriously look like you should put LEGO pins on top of every flat surface.
@OP:
I do not want to see more of your work until you know how to uvmap. Really. I am not going to bother offering further critique until you have learned how to skin something more complex than a box
I have made multiple tutorials on the basics of uv-mapping, and there are literally dozens of good tutorials online.
When you know how to skin, you will understand why we're telling you that you don't know what you're doing. We don't hate you or anything, ok? I know we're kind've mocking you, but trust me... it's for your own good
We're just curing you of a very common disease among newbie modelers- a big confusion between what should be done with geometry and what should be done with skin. As that link that KDR_11 posted will show you... if you go look at the low-poly work that guy has done, you will see that his polycounts are extremely low on the in-game models, yet the amount of detail is extremly high. Skins are much more important than raw geometry. The only people who argue differently are modeling newbies like yourself
Lastly... I do not ever want to see a raytrace from you again. This is GAME MODELING. It is NOT RAYTRACING. They are completely different animals! Your 18000-tri monstrosity could be modeled with 1800 triangles and still look just as good, at game resolutions. If you are strictly interested in high-poly modeling... that's fine, but it has no place here... and quite honestly, high-poly modelers STILL WORRY ABOUT POLYCOUNT and optimize whereever they can
I do not want to see more of your work until you know how to uvmap. Really. I am not going to bother offering further critique until you have learned how to skin something more complex than a box
I have made multiple tutorials on the basics of uv-mapping, and there are literally dozens of good tutorials online.
When you know how to skin, you will understand why we're telling you that you don't know what you're doing. We don't hate you or anything, ok? I know we're kind've mocking you, but trust me... it's for your own good
We're just curing you of a very common disease among newbie modelers- a big confusion between what should be done with geometry and what should be done with skin. As that link that KDR_11 posted will show you... if you go look at the low-poly work that guy has done, you will see that his polycounts are extremely low on the in-game models, yet the amount of detail is extremly high. Skins are much more important than raw geometry. The only people who argue differently are modeling newbies like yourself
Lastly... I do not ever want to see a raytrace from you again. This is GAME MODELING. It is NOT RAYTRACING. They are completely different animals! Your 18000-tri monstrosity could be modeled with 1800 triangles and still look just as good, at game resolutions. If you are strictly interested in high-poly modeling... that's fine, but it has no place here... and quite honestly, high-poly modelers STILL WORRY ABOUT POLYCOUNT and optimize whereever they can
I'm sorry I know this is a model competition, but this needs to be said. The amount of polygons a model has is directly related to amount of GPU processing capacity required to render them in game. Thus the more you have on a model, the more processing power need to display it. Now in the instance of the newest version of UT, its not necessarily super heavy in the poly department, but rather shaders, textures, and shader textures. But remember we are only talking a few instances of a unit in game. Where as something like Spring, when 100's if not 1,000's of units are used in a game by more then one player, if they were all super heavy in the poly department, Spring would "belly up." Even in Supreme Commander the units aren├óÔé¼Ôäót that highly detailed models but rather relay on some very powerful shaders and high resolution textures. It takes less for the textures then it does for high poly models.
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Um... OP, UT2007 does not use rediculous models ingame. The models are all normal mapped with steep parallax mapping. They are about the same resolution as a current game object (4-5k polies for a typical player) except that they have insane normal maps. The sources for the normal maps are 2 million polygons.