Ok at what point do we mappers draw the line?

Forboding Angel · Post by **Forboding Angel** » 15 Oct 2006, 05:00

Honestly, come on. Does this really belong in spring? An RTS engine whom we are trying to show the best side?

Could we perhaps restrict map uploads to unknown files to mappers who actually make REAL maps? This is just stupid.

http://www.unknown-files.net/index.php? ... &dlid=1845

Snipawolf · Post by **Snipawolf** » 15 Oct 2006, 05:04

THAT IS MADE OF PHAIL

Honestly, I hit puberty, what, a year or two ago... And that doesn't turn me on.. Slightly...

I think that is the most retarded map ever.. Wait, dear god, could there be something even worse than that!?

*Crawls into corner and sucks thumb*

+1 for restrictions..

rattle · Post by **rattle** » 15 Oct 2006, 05:21

You haven't seen the MacGuyver map yet Forboding.

Forboding Angel · Post by **Forboding Angel** » 15 Oct 2006, 05:25

For the love of god. Iamacup will you Please do something about this??? ARRUGH

Ishach · Post by **Ishach** » 15 Oct 2006, 05:29

If it is a bad map no-one will download it. Players can make up their minds what they want to play.

Forboding Angel · Post by **Forboding Angel** » 15 Oct 2006, 05:46

While making real mappers look stupid.

It's the bad maps that get talked about in circles other that the spring forums (like other rts forums making fun of spring maps).

Some of us actually put some effort into this. FFS I'm damn near to the point of buying a map hosting server for hosting nothing but the real maps.

Could maybe real maps be seperated from "Joke" or "Dumb" maps? FFS.

j5mello · Post by **j5mello** » 15 Oct 2006, 06:58

also maybe a Remake section as well that would help steer the OTAers to certain maps...

oh and yes that map is made of fail so concentrated thats its very presence threatens the fabric of the universe.

Warlord Zsinj · Post by **Warlord Zsinj** » 15 Oct 2006, 09:30

Eh, I appreciated the gag. Not that I downloaded it either

I wouldn't take yourselves too seriously; if you've spent a long time handcrafting a map, people will appreciate it, and show their appreciation by playing it. Anyone who downloads the map will probably do so for a laugh, or is already a speedmetal player, so no great loss either way.

PicassoCT · Post by **PicassoCT** » 15 Oct 2006, 10:59

FA sorry but i thought about doing such stuff myself. Sex sells, even Spring -and sorry about that, but the Comander is not sexy - even in Spring... However, the Map should at least have good Gameplay, nice Metallspots - and a related Heightmap... as it maybee the first Spring Map that is ever touched by some puperty teens...

Better this than SM...

However, i would have hidden it better - this is... well to obvious.. I like the Effect of Surprise...

Girl or Goose ? Why is there Diffrence in the Protest-Threads?

NOiZE · Post by **NOiZE** » 15 Oct 2006, 11:07

Maybe sections is nice

AA/XTA section
EE section
Spring1944 Section
FF section
Funmaps Section

kinda like that would be good. However these kind of joke maps can be fun so we should tolerate them, but i agree sections would be a good idea.

Deathblane · Post by **Deathblane** » 15 Oct 2006, 12:13

+1e99 For a more organized map page

I mean about 6 moths or so ago I physically went through my entire collection of maps just to remove the metal/porc/ahh my EYES!! maps. But with 400 maps now, of which probably at least 150 are quite good it would be nice to have a better indexed map page. Sortable by size, metal (type as well as max), water or land, ota etc.

Yeah, I know it's a big job (I keep meaning to do it myself on a spread sheet), but ti woudl be really, really nice.

Comp1337 · Post by **Comp1337** » 15 Oct 2006, 12:16

This map isnt such a big deal imo.. its not like its shoved in peoples faces, or being used in springs logo or anything.

PicassoCT · Post by **PicassoCT** » 15 Oct 2006, 12:30

And don`t bash on the maker... Hydrix has done some other works... and i like Mapers who go ExperiMental...

i should use the Chance to thank him in advance.. he prepared the Comunity for even worser things to come from other sides... I think we have to be prepared for even a "Comunity Fuck you!" Map ... and have to live with it. It is a basar and some take it for a Flea Market... there is nothing holy, and it is good so.

danzel · Post by **danzel** » 15 Oct 2006, 13:06

This looks close enough to the release thread for that map.

The map is quite lol, could do with a bit of a better heightmap on the girl however, too liney

There is a also V2 out with porky walls:
http://www.unknown-files.net/index.php? ... &dlid=1847

I do however agree with there being a funmaps section.

ZellSF · Post by **ZellSF** » 15 Oct 2006, 16:58

Uh, mappers have no lines to draw. The host of Unknown Files can choose which files he wants on his site, sure. If I ever host a game on a joke map, no one would have problems getting it anyway (I know how to send files over teh internets)

But mappers should stop bad maps? please. I doubt you can find a popular game which doesn't have joke maps. Do we laugh at Unreal Tournament 2004 for its poor maps? Counter-Strike? Starcraft?

Hell, did we decide to play those games in the first place because of their maps? I'm going to guess we didn't.

And then it's the problem of who chooses what is a joke map or not. The above listed games lets the players decide, I think that's what Spring should do too.

Right now, I'm guessing those other forums (link to one laughing at Spring's poor maps, please?) are busy laughing at the GUI anyway.

Peet · Post by **Peet** » 15 Oct 2006, 21:00

PicassoCT wrote:-and sorry about that, but the Comander is not sexy -

XTA FTFW

...and joke maps are AMUSING

..even though duck is really a goose >_<

Dragon45 · Post by **Dragon45** » 15 Oct 2006, 21:09

Anyone want to link to a link of a screenie of that map? Now I'm just curious.

Dead.Rabit · Post by **Dead.Rabit** » 16 Oct 2006, 03:53

i cant say that i find the map offencive. i can imagine things much worse. all be it i wouldnt do anything more then send it to a friend for a laugh

in terms of how good of a map it is. i think a better job could of been made of turning the woman into a heightmap. n maybe making the stars into platforms...

but however i DO think there is a line that should be drawn. i mean the maps in essence arent much more then a collection of images. and some offencive stuff can be done with images
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my proposal. is a recomendation system
if u like a map then u recomend it. then once it gets enough recomendations then it gets moved into a special list.

these lists would... i dunno, have download priority or something, and be considered the official maplist.

although that doesnt give much room for new awsome maps.
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how about this i know there are stats somewhere for the most played mod in that day, is it possible to do the same for maps.

then like all the maps that have been played that week/day get displayed in a special list?

Neddie · Post by **Neddie** » 16 Oct 2006, 07:01

So, I've read the replies and gotten the gist of what the map is probably about...

I honestly don't mind that the map is avaliable, or that somebody has made it. What matters is whether or not it is played.

SpikedHelmet · Post by **SpikedHelmet** » 16 Oct 2006, 09:29

Sheesh, don't worry about it! A few joke maps isn't going to irepairably ruin Spring's reputation. TA was chalk-full of joke units and maps and races and mods. So long as the joke-things aren't blatantly offensive, IMO it's a good thing, and shows people that Spring is flexible enough that you can fight with gigantic robot armies on some hot girl's titties. Now what other game can give you that!??!

No, but seriously, you shouldn't tantrum over it.

Spring RTS Engine

Ok at what point do we mappers draw the line?

Ok at what point do we mappers draw the line?