0.73b1 test release 4, pretty much the final 0.73b1 version

chlue · Post by **chlue** » 29 Sep 2006, 12:15

If you maximize the minimap, the button to resize them to the previous size is not clickable, because it is hidden under the energy/metallbar.

Is there a way to controll the behavior of the ecomony group-ai? In aa a lvl2 constuction unit prefers to build clusters of fussions and metalmakers, instead of mohomines. Additional it is not a good idea to build clusters of fussions, if there is place available.

rattle · Post by **rattle** » 29 Sep 2006, 13:18

Hm use the mex upgrader AI instead.

colorblind · Post by **colorblind** » 29 Sep 2006, 14:06

chlue wrote:Is there a way to controll the behavior of the ecomony group-ai? In aa a lvl2 constuction unit prefers to build clusters of fussions and metalmakers, instead of mohomines. Additional it is not a good idea to build clusters of fussions, if there is place available.

It should try to build moho's first if there are metalspots available. Make sure you set an area which covers some metalspots.

And yes, it clusters some buildings for which it isn't really a good idea (fusions tend to blow each other up if one goes). The reason for this is that there's no way to read explosions radii from the AI interface atm.

But remember that it's only an AI. If you want better control, you'll just have to manage your economy yourself :).

Caydr · Post by **Caydr** » 29 Sep 2006, 16:49

Would there be a way to indicate when a building is hazardous to be built, that the AI could read?

If I just had to add "hazardous=1;" to a couple dozen FBIs, it'd be no work at all.

KDR_11k · Post by **KDR_11k** » 29 Sep 2006, 17:20

I think it could just read the damage and radius from the ExplodeAs weapon.

Caydr · Post by **Caydr** » 29 Sep 2006, 17:23

He just said that wasn't possible though.

Fanger · Post by **Fanger** » 29 Sep 2006, 17:58

Just something I noted.. When a bomber is given a fuel tag and set to expend all their fuel when firing bombs (thus to limit to only one bombing pass per reload) it will start to turn after firing the first bomb in the sequence thus causing the bomb path to curve.. I dont know how complicated or not this would be, Im sure it would have the same problem with burst fire weapons, Is there anyway to have it not register the fuel loss till a split second after the weapon is done firing..

FireCrack · Post by **FireCrack** » 29 Sep 2006, 18:40

^Try making the bombs use 0 fuel, tyhen detecting when it fires in script, and a few seconds later force-firing a second weapon, that does nothing but use fuel, from the script...

On another note, the Economy AI seems to crash the game a lot in E&E...

j5mello · Post by **j5mello** » 29 Sep 2006, 19:53

probably cause with a lack of metal makers, metal gens, and other extra resourcing methods its got nothing to build. Stick with the upgrader AI and lay down ur own power plants its better that way (esp. since teh AI will clump em together and u don't want that)

zorbawic · Post by **zorbawic** » 29 Sep 2006, 21:08

How about turning the order from attack to patrol the ground to the place where the enemy unit was seen last and stop there when its not in radars range ?

KDR_11k · Post by **KDR_11k** » 29 Sep 2006, 21:27

Maybe make fuel use apply to a weapon once the burst is finished instead of when the burst starts?

mongus · Post by **mongus** » 30 Sep 2006, 07:01

some lasers, like penetrator and spider lasers, look new and flashy.

Some others as sumo, do look the same as current version.

also, the sumo laser has smoke, and does not have that cool flsh effect on it.

Why?

you need to change something in the fbi or weapon info?

or it should be automatic?

Zomg penetrators

FireCrack · Post by **FireCrack** » 30 Sep 2006, 10:17

j5mello wrote:probably cause with a lack of metal makers, metal gens, and other extra resourcing methods its got nothing to build. Stick with the upgrader AI and lay down ur own power plants its better that way (esp. since teh AI will clump em together and u don't want that)

Still, it shouldnt crash, it should give some error message or somthing...

Foxomaniac · Post by **Foxomaniac** » 30 Sep 2006, 13:48

Is any of you able to use shift+building?

I can't line/box/square build anymore, Spacing w/ Shift+x/z doesn't work anymore.

Is this part of the new key binding style dilemma?

Soulless1 · Post by **Soulless1** » 30 Sep 2006, 16:16

I can box/line build, but the spacing keys (I use keyboard cos I don't have a 5-button mouse) don't seem to work

Neuralize · Post by **Neuralize** » 30 Sep 2006, 18:39

I can't access my start menu when the new lobby is activated.

Caydr · Post by **Caydr** » 30 Sep 2006, 19:02

mongus wrote:some lasers, like penetrator and spider lasers, look new and flashy.

Some others as sumo, do look the same as current version.

also, the sumo laser has smoke, and does not have that cool flsh effect on it.

Why?

you need to change something in the fbi or weapon info?

or it should be automatic?

Zomg penetrators

Mod, not developer. Seriously, when you post that in here you could be talking about ANY ta-based mod.

mongus · Post by **mongus** » 30 Sep 2006, 21:20

Neuralize wrote:I can't access my start menu when the new lobby is activated.

That has already been told here, page 2 or so.

Caydr wrote:Mod, not developer. Seriously, when you post that in here you could be talking about ANY ta-based mod.

? xta v7 is the only mod included with dev version.
question stands, its regular v7 or modified? (im lazy to look for fbi tags.. ok one sec looking at svn changelog).

btw, test server is down.

oh and the new key bidding system is bit more laggy than old one.
Current seems more responsive to me, anything that can be done there?

submarine · Post by **submarine** » 30 Sep 2006, 22:43

testing aai with latest svn build and aa2.11

i got the impression that some laser weapons do much more damage compared to 0.72b1. especially llts and weasels became quite powerful (off course i didnt touch the mod files)

Tobi · Post by **Tobi** » 30 Sep 2006, 22:46

mongus wrote:? xta v7 is the only mod included with dev version.
question stands, its regular v7 or modified? (im lazy to look for fbi tags.. ok one sec looking at svn changelog).

Regular.

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0.73b1 test release 4, pretty much the final 0.73b1 version