[01:04:57] <[WarC]Min3mat> amateur level is actually fun IMO
[01:05:31] <[Gen]Imperium> eh i have no great desire to play randy <_<
[01:06:34] <[Gen]Imperium> lol @ orakio
[01:07:31] <TreeForm[FD]> to give him higher score?
[01:07:56] <n1_RICK> lol
[01:08:00] <n1_RICK> how are you people going to get better?
[01:08:03] <n1_RICK> by avoiding the best?
[01:08:11] <n1_RICK> or getting owned and learning?
[01:08:19] <TreeForm[FD]> i will watch replays
[01:08:23] <n1_RICK> it doesnt do it
[01:08:24] <TreeForm[FD]> and his games
[01:08:26] <n1_RICK> you need to play
[01:08:32] <[WarC]Min3mat> who siad i wanted to be the best
[01:08:36] <TreeForm[FD]> i do play
[01:08:42] <[WarC]Min3mat> i KNOW how to be the best coz i used to really really try
[01:08:47] <n1_RICK> i didn't say the best
[01:08:49] <n1_RICK> i said improve
[01:09:12] <[WarC]Min3mat> you play clanmates, and other clans as well as top players obsess over replays and work to improve your APM and general understanding of mods and maps
[01:09:26] <[WarC]Min3mat> but i just cba atm, i mean some of AAs imbalances just @>.<@
[01:09:28] <n1_RICK> its alot simpler than that
[01:09:31] <n1_RICK> one word
[01:09:31] <n1_RICK> play
[01:09:34] <[WarC]Min3mat> nope
[01:09:35] <n1_RICK> over and over
[01:09:37] <n1_RICK> believe me
[01:09:38] <[WarC]Min3mat> not to be the best
[01:09:38] <n1_RICK> i tis
[01:09:42] <n1_RICK> lol ok buddy
[01:09:46] <[WarC]Min3mat> :)
[01:09:46] <n1_RICK> any game is like that
[01:09:55] <[WarC]Min3mat> play -> replay -> improve
[01:10:00] <n1_RICK> watching demos, if you dont know what the little details are
[01:10:04] <n1_RICK> how is that going to help you
[01:10:12] <[WarC]Min3mat> just playing and not thinking about how you did and what you could do more..it really slows you down
[01:10:12] <n1_RICK> its the little things that make you the best an dyou learn them
[01:10:13] <n1_RICK> by playing
[01:10:22] <n1_RICK> replays are overrated
[01:10:25] <[WarC]Min3mat> lol
[01:10:32] <[WarC]Min3mat> so how good are you rick?
[01:10:36] <[Gen]Imperium> eh, i'd say speccing and replays help
[01:10:36] <n1_RICK> i play a OTA
[01:10:39] <n1_RICK> and i'm very good
[01:10:41] <n1_RICK> same concept
[01:10:42] <[WarC]Min3mat> did you use to be one of the top 5 players playing?
[01:10:48] <n1_RICK> yes
[01:10:50] <n1_RICK> by far
[01:10:51] <[WarC]Min3mat> and does OTA have a good replays function and well hosted sites/
[01:10:56] <n1_RICK> yep
[01:11:01] <[Gen]Imperium> DO BATTLE
[01:11:01] <[WarC]Min3mat> and is OTA balanced in any way shape or form>
[01:11:06] <n1_RICK> yep
[01:11:07] <[WarC]Min3mat> the answer to both the above is a no
[01:11:11] <PRO_Muffy> yes
[01:11:12] <[WarC]Min3mat> TADRS...shoot me now
[01:11:13] <PRO_Muffy> it is
[01:11:13] <n1_RICK> you clearly have no idea
[01:11:16] <n1_RICK> min3mat
[01:11:19] <PRO_Muffy> min
[01:11:19] <[WarC]Min3mat> and balance...its worse than AA
[01:11:19] <n1_RICK> you old bitter man
[01:11:21] <n1_RICK> do NOT talk about things
[01:11:22] <PRO_Muffy> if Aa is balanced
[01:11:22] <n1_RICK> you dont know of
[01:11:24] <n1_RICK> believe me
[01:11:25] <n1_RICK> you are wrong
[01:11:27] <n1_RICK> on ALL counts
[01:11:28] <PRO_Muffy> tell me.. how many releases have their been?
[01:11:29] <PRO_Muffy>
[01:11:32] <[WarC]Min3mat> heh
[01:11:38] <PRO_Muffy> and in each one caydr says its mroe and more balanced
[01:11:44] <TreeForm[FD]> lol
[01:11:49] <PRO_Muffy> he was remaking AA when there was no spring
[01:11:49] <n1_RICK> its funny min
[01:11:51] <PRO_Muffy> years ago
[01:11:54] <n1_RICK> a OTA semi expert
[01:11:54] <[Gen]Imperium> i miss the days of 1.44 when flashes owned >_<
[01:11:54] <PRO_Muffy> none of the units are his
[01:11:57] <n1_RICK> joins AA
[01:11:59] <n1_RICK> and one month later
[01:12:01] <PRO_Muffy> he nicked from frmo modders about 5 years ago
[01:12:01] <n1_RICK> hes unbeatable
[01:12:06] <[WarC]Min3mat> muffy
[01:12:06] <n1_RICK> its the concepts
[01:12:07] <n1_RICK> he learned in TA
[01:12:09] <n1_RICK> by PLAYING
[01:12:10] <n1_RICK> that did that
[01:12:11] <[WarC]Min3mat> he knows that
[01:12:12] <n1_RICK> not demos
[01:12:14] <[WarC]Min3mat> he remodeled
[01:12:16] <[WarC]Min3mat> he rescripted
[01:12:21] <[WarC]Min3mat> he retextured
[01:12:24] <[WarC]Min3mat> and best of all he rebalanced
[01:12:33] <n1_RICK> you are too old to understand
[01:12:33] <PRO_Muffy> but he didnt balance it
[01:12:35] <[tN]DemO> rick
[01:12:38] <[tN]DemO> who are you talking about
[01:12:38] <n1_RICK> i can tell by your responses
[01:12:41] <[WarC]Min3mat> too old to understand ROFL ROFL ROFL
[01:12:41] <n1_RICK> you are stubborn
[01:12:44] <n1_RICK> and poor at gaming
[01:12:44] <[WarC]Min3mat> too OLD
[01:12:46] <[WarC]Min3mat> too OLD
[01:12:47] <[WarC]Min3mat> too OLD
[01:12:50] <[Gen]Imperium> haha
[01:12:50] <n1_RICK> you are like an old dog
[01:12:51] <PRO_Muffy> guys, stop insults
[01:12:53] <n1_RICK> UNWILLING
[01:12:54] <[EESF]Avatar> wow AA bitch fest
[01:12:54] <[WarC]Min3mat> oh god you crack me up
[01:12:54] <TreeForm[FD]> trees are old
[01:12:54] <n1_RICK> to listen
[01:12:55] <n1_RICK> to anything
[01:12:57] <n1_RICK> from anyone
[01:12:58] <[WarC]Min3mat> OLD DOG :D
[01:12:59] <[WarC]Min3mat> :D
[01:13:01] <[EESF]Avatar> the problem is AA isnt original
[01:13:02] <[WarC]Min3mat> :D :D :D
[01:13:05] <PRO_Muffy> i loko at TA because it is a cornerstone
[01:13:08] <[EESF]Avatar> its not raw content that came from caydr
[01:13:08] <[tN]DemO> generally springers dont like ota'ers for one reason
[01:13:08] <[WarC]Min3mat> so now SPRING is OLD and TA is NEW
[01:13:09] <n1_RICK> AA is fine , this has nothing to do
[01:13:10] <[tN]DemO> and its always the same
[01:13:11] <n1_RICK> with AA vs OTA
[01:13:12] <[EESF]Avatar> no creativity required
[01:13:14] <n1_RICK> its general concepts
[01:13:15] <PRO_Muffy> i did a gaming degree partly based on what i say in TA
[01:13:17] <[tN]DemO> ota'ers think they own the world
[01:13:18] <[WarC]Min3mat> and OTA is balanced and demo support was good?
[01:13:22] <[WarC]Min3mat> i love you rich
[01:13:26] * [WarC]Min3mat hugs rick
[01:13:26] <PRO_Muffy> mat, listen
[01:13:30] <n1_RICK> min, you are clearly an idiot
[01:13:31] <PRO_Muffy> caydr has set everything toextremes
[01:13:34] <n1_RICK> did you ever play TA?
[01:13:41] <PRO_Muffy> thats why 3 AA units pwn level 1 air
[01:13:43] <[WarC]Min3mat> AA is RPS balance, yes
[01:13:47] <PRO_Muffy> and why level 1 air pwns anything until u get it
[01:13:47] <[WarC]Min3mat> ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL RICK
[01:13:50] <[EESF]Avatar> the thign is I dotn see any OTA games here
[01:13:52] <[WarC]Min3mat> you crack me up
[01:13:52] <[EESF]Avatar> RPS?
[01:13:54] <PRO_Muffy> avatar
[01:13:56] <PRO_Muffy> ykno what?
[01:13:58] <[WarC]Min3mat> rock paper scissors
[01:14:05] <[WarC]Min3mat> didnt play OTA...OLD dog
[01:14:05] <[EESF]Avatar> eek
[01:14:06] <n1_RICK> its hard to have conversations with idiots around here muffy
[01:14:08] <[WarC]Min3mat> im 18
[01:14:10] <PRO_Muffy> thats cause everyone says "u dont need it. <insert mod here> is better than OTA"
[01:14:12] <PRO_Muffy> but u know what?
[01:14:13] <n1_RICK> alot of idiots
[01:14:13] <[WarC]Min3mat> _18_
[01:14:16] <PRO_Muffy> there isnt an OTA mod
[01:14:22] <[WarC]Min3mat> and i played OTA as a teenager
[01:14:22] <n1_RICK> then you are just stupid
[01:14:23] <PRO_Muffy> so how cna they compare?
[01:14:24] <PRO_Muffy>
[01:14:26] <n1_RICK> its that simple
[01:14:29] <[WarC]Min3mat> i went to all the stupid 3rd party sites
[01:14:33] <[WarC]Min3mat> i bashed banzai Ais
[01:14:40] <n1_RICK> HHHAHAHAHAHHAAH
[01:14:42] <n1_RICK> AHAAAAAAAAAAHAHAH
[01:14:43] <PRO_Muffy> lol
[01:14:44] <[WarC]Min3mat> no SHIT i played OTA, a gamer who hasnt hasnt lived
[01:14:49] <[EESF]Avatar> bet you cant beat 2 allied KAI's in EE?
[01:14:54] <[WarC]Min3mat> no i cant
[01:14:56] <[WarC]Min3mat> i dont play EE
[01:14:58] <n1_RICK> you dont know the game min
[01:14:59] <[WarC]Min3mat> and i suck at AA of late
[01:15:03] <[WarC]Min3mat> i know that game...
[01:15:03] <PRO_Muffy> i lvoed playing it on metal heck dude
[01:15:06] <PRO_Muffy> spamming bbs lik no tomorrow
[01:15:08] <[Gen]Imperium> @_@
[01:15:10] <PRO_Muffy> 50 plants jsut to stay alive
[01:15:13] <PRO_Muffy> unles you rushed it
[01:15:23] <[tN]DemO> 50 plants is an average metalheck game anyway:p
[01:15:26] <n1_RICK> and thats BESIDE the point..the point is you can only learn so much from REPLAYS at ANY game, thats a fact
[01:15:28] <[EESF]Avatar> for all of AA's popularity fo late thats nothing to say about the actual mod
[01:15:29] <[WarC]Min3mat> :D :D :D
[01:15:34] <[WarC]Min3mat> rick you stupid...god
[01:15:39] <[WarC]Min3mat> i mean...
[01:15:41] <[WarC]Min3mat> just...
[01:15:42] <n1_RICK> you know why thats a fact
[01:15:44] <[EESF]Avatar> its popular because the people who play ti had nothign else to play at the time
[01:15:46] <n1_RICK> how long have all you SPRING guys
[01:15:47] <PRO_Muffy> mat, you're forgettnig these guys ahve years of OTA experience
[01:15:48] <n1_RICK> been watching replays
[01:15:49] <[EESF]Avatar> and it survives because of that
[01:15:49] <PRO_Muffy> more than me
[01:15:51] <n1_RICK> and look at someone like andy
[01:15:52] <n1_RICK> walks in
[01:15:54] <n1_RICK> rapes ALL OF YOU
[01:15:57] <n1_RICK> it has nothing to do
[01:15:58] <n1_RICK> with replays
[01:15:59] <PRO_Muffy> rick wrote TADRs
[01:16:03] <n1_RICK> NOTHING
[01:16:04] <PRO_Muffy> the site which hosts all the OTA replays
[01:16:05] <[EESF]Avatar> so people assume its better than sliced bread
[01:16:10] <[WarC]Min3mat> yeah it had something to do with IRL...
[01:16:12] <PRO_Muffy> he is one of the founders of the replay idea within TA
[01:16:15] <PRO_Muffy>
[01:16:19] <[WarC]Min3mat> this thing called a job (lame!)
[01:16:19] <n1_RICK> this is not even a TA vs spring debate avatar
[01:16:19] <PRO_Muffy> he knows what hes talking about
[01:16:20] <[WarC]Min3mat> heh
[01:16:22] <[WarC]Min3mat> lol
[01:16:26] <n1_RICK> this monkey of a person min, is trying to turn it into that
[01:16:27] <[WarC]Min3mat> now to turn the tables
[01:16:31] <[WarC]Min3mat> RICK YOU ARE A OLD DOG
[01:16:35] <[Gen]Imperium> Oo
[01:16:36] <PRO_Muffy> lmao
[01:16:37] <[Gen]Imperium> oO
[01:16:38] <PRO_Muffy> :\
[01:16:38] <n1_RICK> min, you are way too stupid
[01:16:39] <[WarC]Min3mat> YOU PLAY OTA U STUBBORN U DONT KNOW SPRING
[01:16:40] <n1_RICK> honestly
[01:16:41] <[WarC]Min3mat> LOLOLOLOL
[01:16:48] <[Gen]Imperium> a part of me wants to go to bed, another is just too entertained ^^
[01:16:52] <[WarC]Min3mat> i mean lets go with stereotypes
[01:16:52] <[EE]Decimator> you know, if this were #main....
[01:16:55] <PRO_Muffy> imperium
[01:16:59] <n1_RICK> muffy, is this guy serious?
[01:16:59] <PRO_Muffy> we could haev played 5 games by now
[01:17:00] <[tN]DemO> lol deci
[01:17:02] * [WarC]Min3mat hides from deci's wrath
[01:17:05] <PRO_Muffy> mat aint a bad player
[01:17:05] <n1_RICK> is this the stupidity i have to deal with here?
[01:17:06] <[Gen]Imperium> Shush you <_<
[01:17:10] <[WarC]Min3mat> heh
[01:17:11] * TreeForm[FD] hides too
[01:17:12] <PRO_Muffy> but as i said to vapor
[01:17:13] <[WarC]Min3mat> doesnt matter to rick
[01:17:16] <PRO_Muffy> give it 2 weeks
[01:17:18] <[WarC]Min3mat> he KNOWS OTA!!!!
[01:17:19] <PRO_Muffy> and youll be in the top 5%
[01:17:19] <n1_RICK> min shut up, you are seriously an idiot
[01:17:22] <[WarC]Min3mat> :D :D :D
[01:17:23] <PRO_Muffy> OTA teaches skills
[01:17:24] <PRO_Muffy> and strats
[01:17:26] <[WarC]Min3mat> you say that all you want rick
[01:17:31] <[WarC]Min3mat> i will just sit here laughing
[01:17:32] <PRO_Muffy> we take it for granted theres 500 units in a game
[01:17:32] <n1_RICK> min, i played about 10 games of SPRING..you wanna bet i can beat you at it?
[01:17:36] <[tN]DemO> ok ok ok ok ok wowowowowow heres where its at people
[01:17:37] <[WarC]Min3mat> hope i dont wake my parents up!
[01:17:43] <PRO_Muffy> mat vs rick
[01:17:44] <PRO_Muffy> i wanna see this
[01:17:46] <[WarC]Min3mat> lol
[01:17:47] <PRO_Muffy> can i watch?
[01:17:48] <PRO_Muffy> plz
[01:17:48] <PRO_Muffy> :)
[01:17:49] <[WarC]Min3mat> sure
[01:17:50] <PRO_Muffy> right now
[01:17:51] <PRO_Muffy> lets go
[01:17:51] <[tN]DemO> springers dont like ota'ers for one reason
[01:17:51] <[EE]Decimator> i'd enjoy that
[01:17:53] <[tN]DemO> ONE REASON
[01:17:55] <[tN]DemO> that reason being
[01:18:02] <[WarC]Min3mat> i dont have anything against OTAers
[01:18:04] <[tN]DemO> OTA'ers always stomp into spring and ALWAYS tell us they'll own us within 10 games
[01:18:09] <PRO_Muffy> UMG DEMO YOU HATE ME
[01:18:10] <[WarC]Min3mat> he walked in, called me a OLD DOG and stuff
[01:18:10] <[tN]DemO> then say spring sucks
[01:18:13] <[WarC]Min3mat> i mean come on >.>
[01:18:14] <[tN]DemO> when they cant win
[01:18:14] <PRO_Muffy> but demo, we do
[01:18:16] <n1_RICK> min, why dont you go up
[01:18:19] <n1_RICK> copy and paste in notepad
[01:18:20] <PRO_Muffy>
[01:18:21] <n1_RICK> read the convo
[01:18:26] <PRO_Muffy> lol
[01:18:29] <[WarC]Min3mat> hehehe
[01:18:29] <n1_RICK> and realise you turned this into a conversation
[01:18:30] <[tN]DemO> ota'ers are fine, i want more of them to come here
[01:18:32] <PRO_Muffy> rick are you hosting?
[01:18:34] <n1_RICK> that had nothing to do with the point
[01:18:34] <[WarC]Min3mat> sorry for talking
[01:18:38] <[WarC]Min3mat> i wont do it again!
[01:18:39] <PRO_Muffy> or mat
[01:18:44] <[tN]DemO> but when they say they're better than us without even playing a game, it gets annoying:)
[01:18:45] <n1_RICK> i never EVER said anything against AA
[01:18:46] <[WarC]Min3mat> in fact discussing stuff should be outlawed
[01:18:51] <PRO_Muffy> lol...
[01:18:53] <n1_RICK> i said you are stupid for thinking replays are all that you need
[01:18:53] <PRO_Muffy> ok ok...
[01:18:54] <n1_RICK> to get good
[01:18:54] <[WarC]Min3mat> i think that we should all be afk tbh
[01:18:59] <[WarC]Min3mat> no you >.<
[01:19:01] <[WarC]Min3mat> i SAID
[01:19:01] <[Gen]Imperium> <_>
[01:19:02] <[tN]DemO> i'm not being specific rick, this is a stereotype i'm talking about
[01:19:07] <[WarC]Min3mat> IF YOU DONT USE REPLAYS
[01:19:09] <[WarC]Min3mat> YOU LEARN SLOWER
[01:19:12] <[WarC]Min3mat> NOT YOU DONT LEARN
[01:19:12] <n1_RICK> demo, i never said that
[01:19:15] <[WarC]Min3mat> NOT THAT OYU SUCK
[01:19:17] <[EE]Decimator> so guys, anybody think [BAD_GESSE]ee should be unmuted?
[01:19:17] <[tN]DemO> you're other n1 guy was here yesterday
[01:19:20] <[tN]DemO> he pm'd me
[01:19:20] <PRO_Muffy> i learnt a lot from relpays
[01:19:22] <[WarC]Min3mat> NOT THAT ITS NOT POSSIBLE TO LEARN WITHOUT
[01:19:27] <n1_RICK> yes it is
[01:19:28] <PRO_Muffy> but i didnt learn how to respond til i played
[01:19:28] <PRO_Muffy> :
[01:19:30] <PRO_Muffy> :)
[01:19:30] <[WarC]Min3mat> just it SLOWS YOU DOWN if you DONT use REPLAYS
[01:19:32] <n1_RICK> to get to a GOOD skill level
[01:19:33] <n1_RICK> its not enough
[01:19:37] <[WarC]Min3mat> and OTAs replay interface was SHIT
[01:19:43] <[WarC]Min3mat> you had to CHEAT to use replays...
[01:19:51] <TreeForm[FD]> cheater!
[01:19:52] <PRO_Muffy> OTAs relpay interface IS good enough
[01:19:53] * [SmuG]Nixa coughs
[01:20:00] <PRO_Muffy> :)
[01:20:04] <PRO_Muffy> hkoay
[01:20:06] <PRO_Muffy> lol
[01:20:06] <[WarC]Min3mat> here its a few clicks and you can do so much more...
[01:20:08] <[Gen]Imperium> this channel has a lot more green lights now <_<
[01:20:09] * [SmuG]Nixa its only a game
[01:20:13] <PRO_Muffy> so are we gonna see rick vs minemat?
[01:20:18] <[tN]DemO> nixa:D
[01:20:20] <[WarC]Min3mat> yay im entertaining ppl >.>
[01:20:23] <[tN]DemO> you just came into
[01:20:24] <PRO_Muffy> in the old days we used to settle things by playing
[01:20:26] <[tN]DemO> an ota vs spring war
[01:20:32] <[WarC]Min3mat> well i said yes ages ago...
[01:20:37] <[WarC]Min3mat> you told him to host
[01:20:38] <n1_RICK> lets have some fun
[01:20:39] <[Gen]Imperium> unluck? <_<
[01:20:39] <[SmuG]Nixa> ota wins gg hf gl all that stuff
[01:20:44] <[Gen]Imperium> unlock? <_< >_>
[01:20:48] <[WarC]Min3mat> now lets all do the typical thing and mock him or something >.>
[01:21:05] <[tN]DemO> muffy
[01:21:07] <[tN]DemO> ready u
[01:21:09] <[tN]DemO> up
[01:21:23] <PRO_Muffy> oooh
[01:21:23] <n1_RICK> join up buddy
[01:21:23] <PRO_Muffy> what we doing it again
[01:21:25] <PRO_Muffy> demo
[01:21:27] <PRO_Muffy> i wana see this
[01:21:31] <[tN]DemO>
[01:21:34] <n1_RICK> and if i win i am going to LAUGH MY ASS OFF
[01:21:36] <[tN]DemO> tell emaciator then
[01:26:05] <[WarC]Min3mat> god i love the internet
[01:26:08] <[WarC]Min3mat> its so awesome
[01:26:24] <[WarC]Min3mat> *OMG YOU R DOING DEFRAG U R LOSER BACK OUT GAME OMG OMG OMG' :D
[01:26:27] <[tN]DemO> you have caused disturbance in the force
[01:26:32] <[WarC]Min3mat> shit yeah
[01:26:34] <[WarC]Min3mat> night
[01:26:36] <[tN]DemO> :)
[01:27:01] <[EE]Decimator> note to self, min3mat deserves zero respect
[01:27:43] <hrmph> lol
Cast
Min3mat is the noob with the attitude
Deci is the mod with the noobstick
hrmph says 'lol'
this richard guy is a amazing OTA player, made the ladder script and the TADRS site
Special thanks to richard, without him this could never have happened
(you may now lol :))
remember arguing on the internets is liek the special olympics, even if you 'win' you still lose
