Xect vs. Mynn: let's GO!

Argh · Post by **Argh** » 17 Sep 2006, 09:38

Hmm... ok. I can rework the main body. I just don't want to re-do the legs, when I've already finished uvmapping the bloody thing. What you guys want is something that is more deliberately alien and scary, basically.

<shrugs> I never really saw the Mynn as being scary- y'all have tried the mod out, right?

Er... or maybe you haven't, so you don't know what I'm talking about... it's pretty cheesy in general tone and feel- I don't think it was on purpose, though. So I will resist the urge to refer to 50's scifi and reference something a little more modern.

Maelstrom · Post by **Maelstrom** » 17 Sep 2006, 09:42

Nononono, cheesy sci-fi is BAD. It doesnt have to be scary, I just thought it was ment to be, that thing looks like a 50's sci-fi evil moster crab-o-dewm, that all. It doesnt have to be all scary, but that mouth with the pissy teeth just doesnt look good at all.

Argh · Post by **Argh** » 17 Sep 2006, 10:53

Less deliberately cheesy, more of an anime reference style. I'm still debating whether to take the time to make the top look segmented and plate-like... might be kewl.

Maelstrom · Post by **Maelstrom** » 17 Sep 2006, 10:57

Umm, which way is the front, they both look like they have eyes

Definately an improvement, cant wait to see this beast ingame!

Argh · Post by **Argh** » 17 Sep 2006, 11:38

After quite a bit of fine-tuning...

I don't think people will have trouble with the whole front-back thing when it's in-game. I am going to very deliberately have the front legs be angled more forwards, and the eyes will have some reflectivity on them. The other things on the back are the unit's weapon- in this case, given that I don't have a mouth to use, I'll use a v-launch "missile", but given the tags that will be available in 0.73b, it won't look at all like a missile...

Maelstrom · Post by **Maelstrom** » 17 Sep 2006, 14:09

Well those dots you had on the back before made them look like eyes, thats all. Those new shell line bits make it look like hot sex, lovin them. Keep it up, at this rate, Xect vs Mynn is going to own!

Zoombie · Post by **Zoombie** » 17 Sep 2006, 14:14

That...is a big improvment.

Argh · Post by **Argh** » 19 Sep 2006, 08:38

Yup. It's scripted, functional, and ready to rock 'n roll

BvDorp · Post by **BvDorp** » 23 Sep 2006, 13:40

Awesome work!

How far are you atm in completing the X&M? Would be great for Spring, having a second GPL mod!

Thnx, Argh

Post by **Tim Blokdijk** » 23 Sep 2006, 14:11

BvDorp wrote:Awesome work!

How far are you atm in completing the X&M? Would be great for Spring, having a second GPL mod!

Thnx, Argh

Just a few more day's

Argh is in a far better position to make a guess, but it will take many months and I'm presuming that development is constant with some teamwork to share the workload.
So don't expect playing a X/M 1.0 version any time soon.

Of course if Argh has a lot of time and motivation he might cut that time in half but that would be really demanding.
People that give it 200% face a burnout once there is a setback, not a good idea as we already lost a few good developers.

danzel · Post by **danzel** » 23 Sep 2006, 14:15

You are a legend Argh.
This looks like it will make a nice GPL addition :)

Das Bruce · Post by **Das Bruce** » 23 Sep 2006, 14:32

Tim Blokdijk wrote:
BvDorp wrote:Awesome work!

How far are you atm in completing the X&M? Would be great for Spring, having a second GPL mod!

Thnx, Argh
Just a few more day's

Argh is in a far better position to make a guess, but it will take many months and I'm presuming that development is constant with some teamwork to share the workload.
So don't expect playing a X/M 1.0 version any time soon.

Of course if Argh has a lot of time and motivation he might cut that time in half but that would be really demanding.
People that give it 200% face a burnout once there is a setback, not a good idea as we already lost a few good developers.

I'm not sure Argh could burn out, all current observations lead to the conclusion that for breakfast he eats bricks and shits gunpowder.

espylaub · Post by **espylaub** » 23 Sep 2006, 15:22

Argh wrote:

Yup. It's scripted, functional, and ready to rock 'n roll

I have no idea what this is, but I'm playing it as soon as it's finished.

Argh, awesome. You do great things for Spring!

Snipawolf · Post by **Snipawolf** » 23 Sep 2006, 15:27

Argh wrote:
The other things on the back are the unit's weapon- in this case, given that I don't have a mouth to use, I'll use a v-launch "missile", but given the tags that will be available in 0.73b, it won't look at all like a missile...

Bad vlaunch, I dun't like it!

Wouldn't TrajectoryHeight be better?

pheldens · Post by **pheldens** » 23 Sep 2006, 15:42

headcrab alert!
looking forward to playing this :D

danzel · Post by **danzel** » 23 Sep 2006, 16:10

Just grabbed the svn version to see if I could help out a bit.

I'm using the latest beta build of 0.73 and I don't see any laser type weapon effects.

I see them in XTA and AA however.

Heres a few bugs anyway with some suggestions in brackets:
The Xect commanders legs are in the ground. Looks like the model split in 2 between his spine and his legs.
The Regal lives in a giant box. Spawn him and select him and you'll see.
The Xect moth doesn't rotate fast enough. (Make: Acceleration=0.1; TurnRate=500)
The Mynn air construction units (L1 and L2) are almost uncontrollable.
- They both have "BrakeRate=0.005;", (Make: BrakeRate=0.25; on both and slightly decrease cair Acceleration to Acceleration=0.5; )

Decimator · Post by **Decimator** » 23 Sep 2006, 18:01

Yeah, if you just used something like the rockets in E&E, that would probably look and work better.

pheldens · Post by **pheldens** » 23 Sep 2006, 20:13

Foe OfTheBee wrote:The SVN version works fine for me, but I'm also using the dev release of .73. What problems are you having?

Solved, turned out to be a openal segfault bug, downgraded that to 0.0.8, funny this didnt show up in any other mod.

pheldens · Post by **pheldens** » 23 Sep 2006, 20:28

danzel wrote:I'm using the latest beta build of 0.73 and I don't see any laser type weapon effects.
I see them in XTA and AA however.

tvo:

The correct way to fix it is to replace:
Code:

NumDependencies=2;
Depend0=springbitmaps_v061.sdz;
Depend1=springdecals_v062.sdz;

with:
Code:

NumDependencies=1;
Depend0=springcontent.sdz;

in Xect-vs-Mynn.sdd/modinfo.tdf.

me:
this should go in svn really, but the 2 xvm devs are using a local spring version from before this change I think.

FoeOfTheBee · Post by **FoeOfTheBee** » 23 Sep 2006, 21:48

pheldens wrote:
danzel wrote:I'm using the latest beta build of 0.73 and I don't see any laser type weapon effects.
I see them in XTA and AA however.
tvo:

The correct way to fix it is to replace:
Code:

NumDependencies=2;
Depend0=springbitmaps_v061.sdz;
Depend1=springdecals_v062.sdz;

with:
Code:

NumDependencies=1;
Depend0=springcontent.sdz;

in Xect-vs-Mynn.sdd/modinfo.tdf.

me:
this should go in svn really, but the 2 xvm devs are using a local spring version from before this change I think.

I went ahead and commited this. It doesn't work for me unless springcontent.sdz is in the spring directory. In my install it was in /base by default I believe.

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Xect vs. Mynn: let's GO!