Instant projectiles

pin_ · Post by **pin_** » 23 Sep 2006, 01:02

I've started to play with Spring code yesterday. I have some changes I want to make.
One of them is how projectiles work. I'd like get rid of projectiles for some type of weapons like for instance for infanty rifles.
Im looking for instant impact. All I need is fire from the barrel and the explosion/impact dust. That's it, no traveling projectiles, beams, etc.

Does anyone have suggestions what would be the easyest way do it?

Snipawolf · Post by **Snipawolf** » 23 Sep 2006, 01:07

I guess just ramp the velocity up all the way, I don't think we can play this game without projectiles..

pin_ · Post by **pin_** » 23 Sep 2006, 01:08

I tried to increase the projectile speed to the point where u can't see it anymore. The problem with that is the projectile becomes very inaccurate. It looks like the projectile has no colision detection, it goes right through the target without exploding.

Is the projectile the only way a unit can inflict damage to another unit?

Snipawolf · Post by **Snipawolf** » 23 Sep 2006, 01:09

pin_ wrote:I tried to increase the projectile speed to the point where u can't see it anymore. The problem with that is the projectile becomes very inaccurate. It looks like the projectile has no colision detection, it goes right through the target without exploding.

Is the projectile the only way a unit can inflict damage to another unit?

Yes

I didn't know it missed if it was going really fast.. Interesting.. Do you use 3do or s3o?

pin_ · Post by **pin_** » 23 Sep 2006, 01:09

I type fast huh?

Snipawolf · Post by **Snipawolf** » 23 Sep 2006, 01:10

yeah, i guess.. Kinda irrelevent

pin_ · Post by **pin_** » 23 Sep 2006, 01:11

Snipawolf wrote:
pin_ wrote:I tried to increase the projectile speed to the point where u can't see it anymore. The problem with that is the projectile becomes very inaccurate. It looks like the projectile has no colision detection, it goes right through the target without exploding.

Is the projectile the only way a unit can inflict damage to another unit?
Yes

I didn't know it missed if it was going really fast.. Interesting.. Do you use 3do or s3o?

The default one, that's 3do I think.

Snipawolf · Post by **Snipawolf** » 23 Sep 2006, 01:12

Switch to s3o, I think someone said the collision was fixed in it.

pin_ · Post by **pin_** » 23 Sep 2006, 01:15

Thanks, does that mean I have to make new units by myself or ther's some converter available?

pin_ · Post by **pin_** » 23 Sep 2006, 01:22

Snipawolf wrote:yeah, i guess.. Kinda irrelevent

=]

I knew that qustion will come eventually so I started to write my second post after I finished the first one

Snipawolf · Post by **Snipawolf** » 23 Sep 2006, 01:26

I think a converter would be upspring... Do you know about UV mapping and all?

pin_ · Post by **pin_** » 23 Sep 2006, 01:28

yeah, but I'd rather not do stuff by hand. It's >100 unit types after all.

Snipawolf · Post by **Snipawolf** » 23 Sep 2006, 01:31

Then, uhmmm... I dunno, I guess you'll just have to use a really small model for the ammunition..

Argh · Post by **Argh** » 23 Sep 2006, 01:50

Actually, there are a number of things in 0.73b (one of them is mine, after gentle modification by JC and Yeha) that specifically address impact collision accuracy in Spring. More on that when we get to release status- I built NanoBlobs, after all, to very specifically talk about that.

As for making an invisible, insta-hit projectile... that's very easy. A Lightning weapon with a texture1 that's basically "not there" will work perfectly. Making a texture that's all clear is super-easy- just make a black texture with a black alpha

pin_ · Post by **pin_** » 23 Sep 2006, 01:57

Thanks Argh!

Snipawolf · Post by **Snipawolf** » 23 Sep 2006, 01:58

See the difference between Argh and I

Snipawolf = Nub

Argh = Genius

FizWizz · Post by **FizWizz** » 23 Sep 2006, 03:44

Even in the current version you could have beam lasers with an intensity of zero (or whatever makes them invisible) for instant hit projectiles that you cannot see.

Caydr · Post by **Caydr** » 23 Sep 2006, 20:35

FizWizz wrote:Even in the current version you could have beam lasers with an intensity of zero (or whatever makes them invisible) for instant hit projectiles that you cannot see.

Damn it all. I thought I was going to get to say this one. Wait, I know...

AND HERE'S AN EXAMPLE!!!

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[ARMSNIPE_WEAPON]
{
ID=160;
name=SniperWeapon;
rendertype=0;
lineofsight=1;
turret=1;
noradar=1;
range=950;
reloadtime=14;
energypershot=500;
weaponvelocity=2000;
areaofeffect=4;
beamweapon=1;
targetMoveError=0.5;
intensity=0;
thickness=0;
rgbcolor=0 0 0;
SoundStart=sniper2;
SoundHit=DFhit;
explosiongenerator=custom:FLASH1nd;
impulsefactor=0.123;
impulseBoost=0.123;
craterMult=0;
craterBoost=0;
[DAMAGE]
{
default=2500;
COMMANDERS=750;
KROGOTH=6000;
ORCONE=6000;
SEADRAGON=6000;
BLACKHYDRA=6000;
MECHS=3500;
L1SUBS=5;
L2SUBS=5;
L3SUBS=5;
}
}

Guessmyname · Post by **Guessmyname** » 23 Sep 2006, 23:28

beamlaser with a low intensity

Spring RTS Engine

Instant projectiles

Instant projectiles