ai problem

neptis · Post by **neptis** » 02 Sep 2006, 22:26

ok in some dam mods i get com bomed. Is thair a way to stop this?
if so then tell me how step by step?

and i have anuther problem. In the fact that in some mods. The AI dus not do enything atoll.
why is this?

neptis

thanks for all ancers

AF · Post by AF » 02 Sep 2006, 23:23

First of all state which AI and its version, aswell as mod+map combinations that give said behaviour.

Also, AI's have been known to com bomb because there is a lack fo a basic algorithm telling the commander when its time to retreat that isnt either too conservative or not enough. Simply stating that it com bombs, or saying 'well it should do this if then do that but', AI devs want to know how to do soemthign not what that somehtign should be. Just a note.

It'd also be useful if you included the AI name in the thread title, afterall who is the oen who should be responding to this? There are many AI devs and many AI's, there is no 'ai in spring', rather there are several 3rd party AI's, e.g. NTai, KAI, AAI, OTAI, QAI, SAI, TSI, TAI etc Thats at least 8 AI devs despite some going away and some AI's having more than 1 dev.

No AI logfiles or spring infoconsole output either.

AI problems need a heck of a lot of data for any report to be of any use. Logs, the AI name, the AI version, and mod/map/faction(side/race/arm?/core?/urc?/ni?/gd?)

Drone_Fragger · Post by **Drone_Fragger** » 02 Sep 2006, 23:34

neptis wrote:ok in some dam mods i get com bomed. Is thair a way to stop this?
if so then tell me how step by step?

Build LLTs. 2 llts > Commander.

Also, Use proper English. I could hardly read the last part.

neptis · Post by **neptis** » 03 Sep 2006, 00:41

Drone_Fragger wrote: Build LLTs. 2 llts > Commander.

O I use more than one LLT more lit 15+ 4 in one area 4 in another and 6 in another area
That way the commander never gets to my base. But still he will not have built a big enough base to be competition

Drone_Fragger wrote: Also, Use proper English. I could hardly read the last part.

I do mate I do

AF wrote:First of all state which AI and its version, as well as mod+map combinations that give said behaviour.

Ntai the latest version that is available. Is their a better AI available?
It dues the com bomb with the mod you get with spring and A.A & it dues nothing atoll with the other mods I got for it.

AF wrote: It'd also be useful if you included the AI name in the thread title, afterall who is the oen who should be responding to this? There are many AI devs and many AI's, there is no 'ai in spring', rather there are several 3rd party AI's, e.g. NTai, KAI, AAI, OTAI, QAI, SAI, TSI, TAI etc That├óÔé¼Ôäós at least 8 AI devs despite some going away and some AI's having more than 1 dev.

No AI logfiles or spring infoconsole output either.

What do thows abbreviations mean (I am a noob to spring) could you enlighten me

AF wrote:AI problems need a heck of a lot of data for any report to be of any use. Logs, the AI name, the AI version, and mod/map/faction(side/race/arm?/core?/urc?/ni?/gd?)

So this topic I made was pretty much useless to you lot

neptis

zorbawic · Post by **zorbawic** » 03 Sep 2006, 02:11

please speak "international" english... You should know that members of this forum may not be from a country where english is it's native language. And please avoid using dialects/idioms

Hellspawn · Post by **Hellspawn** » 03 Sep 2006, 10:41

By the time you will built your 15 llts you base will be already swarmed by enemy units

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AF · Post by AF » 03 Sep 2006, 12:28

Those abrieviations are the names of Skirmish AI's

PK Maximoo · Post by **PK Maximoo** » 03 Sep 2006, 13:35

neptis wrote:
Drone_Fragger wrote: Also, Use proper English. I could hardly read the last part.
I do mate I do

No, really. You don't.

neptis · Post by **neptis** » 03 Sep 2006, 16:34

zorbawic wrote: please speak "international" English

I can only speak it the way it is possible for me to speak it. I may be from Scotland but I do speak proper international English. I have a medical problem which stops me speaking it as well as some of you. So please bar that in mined.

zorbawic wrote:You should know that members of this forum may not be from a country where English is it's native language. And please avoid using dialects/idioms

Mate I am no noob to forums.
just this site. Besides this being a .com site makes that point rather obvious
no ofence

Hellspawn wrote:By the time you will built your 15 llts you base will be already swarmed by enemy units

Not with the dam comboming ai that I have at the moment.
And its easy to build the 15+ LLT's before I get swarmed

AF wrote:Those abbreviations are the names of Skirmish AI's

Yes but what do they stand for. And is their better AI's

PK Maximoo wrote:No, really. You don't.

And how would you no? . Are you me. No you are not so do not tell me if I speak Proper English. The way I speak is the best I can do. So ether deal with it. Or show me a program the will sort it Do not say spell checker, Microsoft word or any of that sort I use it anyway.

neptis

AF · Post by AF » 03 Sep 2006, 17:00

Which AI is the best is truly a matter of opinion, and circumstances. Some AI's excel at different things and have different weaknesses.

PK Maximoo · Post by **PK Maximoo** » 03 Sep 2006, 18:23

neptis wrote:
zorbawic wrote: please speak "international" English
I can only speak it the way it is possible for me to speak it. I may be from Scotland but I do speak proper international English. I have a medical problem which stops me speaking it as well as some of you. So please bar that in mined.

No medical problem stops you using a spellchecker.

neptis wrote:
PK Maximoo wrote:No, really. You don't.

And how would you no? . Are you me. No you are not so do not tell me if I speak Proper English. The way I speak is the best I can do. So ether deal with it. Or show me a program the will sort it Do not say spell checker, Microsoft word or any of that sort I use it anyway.

You cannot be using a spellchecker, because "ofence" is not a word. Most of the other mistakes you have made are words that do exist and mean something entirely different from the one you intended to use. The wording you use makes NO sense in the english language most of the time.

For example, "ether" is a highly volatile hydrocarbon that used to be used as an anaesthetic sometimes. And that is definitely not what you meant.

SinbadEV · Post by **SinbadEV** » 03 Sep 2006, 19:14

@PK Maximoo et all:

Don't pick on people because they don't communicate in perfect english, while I understand it is frustrating there is no need to spam his help topic with abuse because you are only making him defensive, if you can't understand just don't answer.

@neptis:

Which version of NTAI are you using by the way?

PK Maximoo · Post by **PK Maximoo** » 03 Sep 2006, 19:52

SinbadEV: I have no problem with people who can't speak/write english when it isn't their first language - well, unless they're my physics lecturers, since they are useless as lecturers if they cannot speak the language they are lecturing in - but he already made it clear that it is his first language. And if someone keeps insisting they are right - as he was - when they blatantly aren't, I see little reason not to ty to correct them.

I'll stop for now, though.

neptis · Post by **neptis** » 03 Sep 2006, 23:43

neptis wrote:I can only speak it the way it is possible for me to speak it. I may be from Scotland but I do speak proper international English. I have a medical problem which stops me speaking it as well as some of you. So please bar that in mined.

PK Maximoo wrote:No medical problem stops you using a spellchecker

whair in the statment did i say i did not use the spellchecker. Some of my words are quit bad. Thair for even the spellchecker douse not understand them.

so leave me be please

PK Maximoo wrote:You cannot be using a spellchecker

are you me.No so do not say that i am not doing somthing when i no for a fact i am.

PK Maximoo wrote:The wording you use makes NO sense in the english language most of the time.

mate the wording i use is the way i have been talking and typing for 95% of my life. And the funy thing is tht most people can read and understand exactly what i am saying. Funy you do not.

SinbadEV wrote:Which version of NTAI are you using by the way?

NTai XE9RC22 i beleve, but not to shure.

o and PK Maximoo: i do not resent the fact that you are trying to corect me. You are only helping me afterall. But i do not like it when some one dus it constantly. so thanks for trying to help me. And if i have ofended you atoll then i apoligise . But i am who i am and i canot help that. so apoligys.

neptis

pheldens · Post by **pheldens** » 03 Sep 2006, 23:47

I had most opposition from AAI so far. (play mainly XTA, pitty it doesnt start nuking, it launched impressive waves of fighters on my ships though)

neptis · Post by **neptis** » 04 Sep 2006, 00:02

what ai is it you youse then
and whair can i downlode it

neptis

PK Maximoo · Post by **PK Maximoo** » 04 Sep 2006, 01:33

neptis wrote:whair in the statment did i say i did not use the spellchecker. Some of my words are quit bad. Thair for even the spellchecker douse not understand them.

If the spellchecker can't work it out, it most likely is very very wrong - hence it is very unlikely to be proper english. Making your entirely unfounded claim that you are writing in good english absurd.

I just checked your post in a spellchecker, by the way. In about 70% of cases, the spellchecker did suggest the correct spelling as one of the options. If in doubt you could check it in a dictionary. You will never improve if you don't put a little effort into it.

Ooops. I wasn't going to reply again.

Damn.

AF · Post by AF » 04 Sep 2006, 02:34

shutup maximoo, your just flame baiting.

He said at the start of the thread he had a medical condition when you first commented on it, you should have stopped after that.

*please lock*

neptis · Post by **neptis** » 04 Sep 2006, 18:54

thanks AF for the suport.

neptis

unpossible · Post by **unpossible** » 04 Sep 2006, 22:43

surely it takes more effort to type made up words?
have a browse of the AI forum and you'll see the main AIs, NTAI, KAI, AAI and the new TSI AI. AI on the end of the name means it's an AI, aaaaiii?

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thanks AF