Several site qualms

AF · Post by AF » 19 Aug 2006, 02:39

First of all I'm loading up pages hundreds of times a day from this site and each time I'm loading useless data such as css comments etc. Bloat, unnecessary stuff like comments tabs etc.

The phpbb style isnt right, look on the main page at the image filling the table squares, one is broken.

You need javascript to view the main page for some reason. Displaying it in a java Swing browser through AFLobby shows the site with lots of ">" at the start of every line and messages saying you need javascript.

Saving the site to disk also messes up the formatting too.

SwiftSpear · Post by **SwiftSpear** » 19 Aug 2006, 02:52

Comments and tabs are there so people editing the site can understand the webcode.

Gnomre · Post by **Gnomre** » 19 Aug 2006, 04:05

It's time to consider upgrading your connection if you're bitching about comments in css...

iamacup · Post by **iamacup** » 19 Aug 2006, 17:22

i guess hes trying to manipulate it with his lobby..... but thats a guess.

AF · Post by AF » 19 Aug 2006, 17:45

I can load it fine but:

those comments make up a large amount of bandwidth when you take into account the sheer number of times it's sent out across the web.

And yes comments are useful but, I doubt it's useful for people who're just surfing the site, so why cant they be taken out in that version of the files?

Tobi · Post by **Tobi** » 19 Aug 2006, 19:13

If anything, optimize the slowest 10%, not the fastest 10%: a few comments...

You can win much more by putting shared stylesheets in separate documents or by using a server & browser that can gzip the data before sending and gunzip it after receiving.

In any case, as long as there's no problems on our side regarding bandwidth then this discussion is just utterly and entirely useless. (And even if we have a problem then we wouldn't start by removing comments from stylesheets, removing e.g. images is far more effective...)

AF · Post by AF » 19 Aug 2006, 19:20

javascript being used on the main page, why?

Tobi · Post by **Tobi** » 19 Aug 2006, 19:21

Protecting e-mail address from spam bots.

Seriously tho, one look at the javascript or surrounding html should have told you that.

mehere101 · Post by **mehere101** » 19 Aug 2006, 22:37

I found something out about the swing browser: it doesn't have a proper html 4 implementation. You have to look at some other way to display html if you want a partially functioning web browser.

AF · Post by AF » 20 Aug 2006, 01:19

I only wanted to display the main page, but it looks like I need another solution.

Dragon45 · Post by **Dragon45** » 20 Aug 2006, 01:22

Bujust launch the chosen brwoser 'inside' AF lobby?

AF · Post by AF » 20 Aug 2006, 01:26

it's java not c/c++

FuzionMonkey · Post by **FuzionMonkey** » 20 Aug 2006, 05:31

Well, the site could use a re-doing anyway.

mr sharpoblunto · Post by **mr sharpoblunto** » 20 Aug 2006, 07:36

mehere101 wrote:I found something out about the swing browser: it doesn't have a proper html 4 implementation. You have to look at some other way to display html if you want a partially functioning web browser.

not only that, it doesn't support CSS 1 properly, only a select subset, let alone CSS 2

Buggi · Post by **Buggi** » 20 Aug 2006, 08:44

FuzionMonkey wrote:Well, the site could use a re-doing anyway.

LOL!!!

Anything else any one wants for free? I mean, c'mon... This site hasn't had an update in well over a year not counting the new logo at the top.

AF · Post by AF » 20 Aug 2006, 16:28

I've offered to redo ti myself, I even set up a dev site, it's not as hard as people make out.......

The vast majority of work involved is aesthetics, the actual site functionality can be redone very veyr quickly unless you start from scratch.

FoeOfTheBee · Post by **FoeOfTheBee** » 20 Aug 2006, 18:56

I've noticed some other unnecessary characters in the css files.

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.header {
	font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
	font-size: 18px;
	font-weight: bold;
}

that last semi-colon is unnecessary, the site would be faster if the code were:

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.header {
	font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
	font-size: 18px;
	font-weight: bold
}

Also all the spaces after colons, before the curly-brace, and in the font-family list

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.header{
	font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;
	font-size:18px;
	font-weight:bold
}

And the tabs and linebreaks

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.header{font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:18px;font-weight:bold}

Much better.

please, please, do not take this post seriously

FuzionMonkey · Post by **FuzionMonkey** » 20 Aug 2006, 21:05

Foe OfTheBee wrote:I've noticed some other unnecessary characters in the css files.
Code: Select all
.header {
	font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
	font-size: 18px;
	font-weight: bold;
}
that last semi-colon is unnecessary, the site would be faster if the code were:
Code: Select all
.header {
	font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
	font-size: 18px;
	font-weight: bold
} 
Also all the spaces after colons, before the curly-brace, and in the font-family list
Code: Select all
.header{
	font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;
	font-size:18px;
	font-weight:bold
} 
And the tabs and linebreaks
Code: Select all
.header{font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:18px;font-weight:bold}
Much better.

please, please, do not take this post seriously

Much better my ass.

http://www.w3.org/

But it is more optimized.

http://www.cleancss.com/ is pretty helpful.

Dragon45 · Post by **Dragon45** » 20 Aug 2006, 21:11

It's a semicolon. Stop bitching about it. It cant be more than a byte or two of data >_<

Edit: Whoops, apparently, he specifially said ' do not take this post seriously '

I phail :`(

Post by **jcnossen** » 20 Aug 2006, 23:41

Hehe, fun, I actually got annoyed before reading the small text

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Several site qualms

Several site qualms