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oh no no no... no beefing!Aun wrote:So, this would make the lvl3 superunits horribly underpowered and pointless? They need a beef!Cabbage wrote:arn't any god units or god guns! Kroggies and Orchones suffer 3x damage to BLOD's! They can get Dugunned by coms, brawlered, swarmed by cheap units.... They are awful for attacking a well defended base. I can count the number of times i've seen them used in a proper game on one hand....
agreed, I'll give a game or two today or tomorrow...Cabbage wrote:arn't any god units or god guns! Kroggies and Orchones suffer 3x damage to BLOD's! They can get Dugunned by coms, brawlered, swarmed by cheap units.... They are awful for attacking a well defended base. I can count the number of times i've seen them used in a proper game on one hand....
Please go play the lastest version, and not just once or twice, play lots of games against diffrent opponents, come play with steve, machio, myself etc.
Don't play speedmetal.... I'm sure you'll understand why everyone is being so hostile if you did this, please go have a week or so of playing proper games and then come back, you'll see why your posts are a bit silly...
It only applies when idle, and is rarely a major factor. Often a unit will either be at full health, dead, or enter combat again before the autoheal kicks in. It only really matters in the early game, when you're beating off L1 attacks on your base.LathanStanley wrote:I do hate the regen of ALL units though...
Arm Commander Nano Speed: 300LathanStanley wrote:and DO hate the range of all the constructors... and the fact they made const airplanes build fast...
lol, remember the Adv. Construction Ground/Naval seaplanes?? lol... they were the FASTEST building unit out there... like 95% as fast as the commie...
It doesn't get used very often. Why? Because they're powerful, specialized (assault is a specialization), expensive units. They would theoretically be useful in a very close game, and they are useful when properly deployed in big team games.neddiedrow wrote:I'm speaking in terms of the ideal L3, not the current one. Who even uses the current one? If you have the resources the right units are obscenely powerful, but a waste of resources. If you don't have the resources it doesn't matter. I would like to see a better L3, and I have been working out replacement units to propose, that was just one of my statements in relation to it.
No it's not. It's a trade-off. Yes, it's easier to support a single factory with a lot of constructors. But it's also riskier, and hardly easier to defend. Factories have a lot more HP than cons, so more bombers have to get through to destroy them. A swarm of cons is going to take a lot of damage from even a handful of bombers, as they'll hit multiple cons, etc.It's then illogical for the mod to support it. Oh, and it's easier to defend a single factory with 80 constructors aiding than the four factories with nineteen/twenty each you would have in a more rational system to produce the same output.Why? A mob of Farks costs lots and is bomber bait.
But the land bertha's still horrendously expensive and vulnerable, and you've got to invest in the L3 factory to get it. And the sea balance is borked anyway - avoid maps with water, you'll be much happier.The one on the Sea is many times more useful due to the terrain. The one on land can be transported with Air.
Once again... No, it's not. It's a risk/reward trade-off. And since fusions go up with a big bang...Once again, it's then illogical for the mod to support them. As they are they can resist too much damage for their placement. And I must return to the statement that it is much easier to protect a single area than many.You shouldn't get Fusion Farms on any sane map. If you do... Bomber time!
Except now Sumos are barely fast enough to get where they want to go in time.No, they would simply be... as slow as slightly cooler molasses - they aren't there for attacks anyway. They're a rolling component of a defensive line.
Then please explain why we almost never see them in games with skilled players?It's not impossible, you're just being difficult for the purposes of rejecting possible change. I've done it, and it's made everything so simple. A targeting station and - point and click. Oh, and when an area disappears, you know it has been jammed. Which means something worth getting rid of is there, if nothing else, the jammer.
Or, if you're complaining about the rate you can produce a con aircraft:LathanStanley wrote:and DO hate the range of all the constructors... and the fact they made const airplanes build fast...
thats faster than ANY posted there, and twice as fast as a con vehicle.. and as fast as an advanced con vehicle.. (which used to be the fastest, with the LARGEST ground tile, so that it is the HARDEST to stack...Arm Con Seaplane Nano Speed: 200
IIRC, the advanced con vehicle was never larger than the regular con vehicle. And it was never an efficient source of build power. I think con aircraft swarms were significantly more efficient.LathanStanley wrote:thats faster than ANY posted there, and twice as fast as a con vehicle.. and as fast as an advanced con vehicle.. (which used to be the fastest, with the LARGEST ground tile, so that it is the HARDEST to stack...
.... You've very obviously never played AA. How about you go play a few games, watch the Hellspawn V Jazz replay, and come back when you actually know what you're talking about, K?besides... what DIFFERENCE does a factory build time REALLY make anyways? it ONLY comes into play when you aren't nanostalling, and how often is that??? hah.
Yes. Specifically:Forboding Angel wrote:Back in the early days it was fun. Now you have maybe 1 fun game in 5. To me that denotes an issue.
AA is fine as it is, if you want a diffrent TA mod, go make one..For balance it would be advantageous to use ota as a base, and then modify as needed to fit to spring. imo.
Do not make the huge mistake of thinking that I am not good at AA. Just because I don't like it doesn't mean I've lost any ability.Egarwaen wrote:Yes. Specifically:Forboding Angel wrote:Back in the early days it was fun. Now you have maybe 1 fun game in 5. To me that denotes an issue.
1) You played too much AA.
2) A lot of people who play AA are bad at it, which makes team games very frustrating.
3) A lot of popular maps are actually very poorly-suited to AA.
Not saying that. I'm saying that AA is frustrating to play compared to, say, Gundam or EE because there's such a wide range of skill levels. If everyone in a game is about the same skill level, it's fun. If someone is much, much better or much, much worse (IE, the kind that tries to L3 fast-tech, or the kind that porcs in their "base" and never, EVER expands) then it gets frustrating fast.Forboding Angel wrote:Do not make the huge mistake of thinking that I am not good at AA. Just because I don't like it doesn't mean I've lost any ability.
