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| ID | Project | Category | View Status | Date Submitted | Last Update |
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| 0004389 | Spring engine | General | public | 2014-05-13 13:28 | 2017-09-03 14:38 |
| Reporter | silentwings | Assigned To | Kloot | ||
| Priority | normal | Severity | minor | Reproducibility | always |
| Status | resolved | Resolution | fixed | ||
| Product Version | 96.0.1+git | ||||
| Summary | 0004389: double press alt + double press shift are not great keys | ||||
| Description | in windows, if i'm undecided about whether to send a chat msg as spec/ally/all and if i change my mind and then change it back quickly, it tries to turn on sticky keys... there is probably a way to disable the "do you want to turn on sticky keys" prompt but i suspect this will irritate alot of people. | ||||
| Tags | No tags attached. | ||||
| Checked infolog.txt for Errors | |||||
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I agree. Everyone tries to disable those sticky keys, but they still always come up. Some weird combination also changes input keyboard (I think something with alt). Besides, alt often gets stuck. |
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Many people have made this comment now. Please change it, or (as many people have also predicted) there will be much complaint when released. Either 1) Implement what jK suggested in #sy - use shift+enter to toggle chat mode and just have two chat modes per player (global and "my allies"/"other specs") or 2) Go back to alt/shift+enter and use something else as fullscreen toggle until (1) is implemented. I don't think fullscreen toggle will be much used, at least for windows users until http://springrts.com/mantis/view.php?id=4388 is implemented. |
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It's not alt+enter, it's alt+return that toggles fullscreen. Why not make alt+enter toggle fullscreen and alt+return toggle specchat? |
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For the same reason that your point is not relevent - on some, but not all, keyboards enter and return are the same key. |
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Please disable those bad rules, really asap. It has no UX justification and if someone wants some own hot keys combo, he can implement it (at least the chat selection). It bad solution, its very much irritating for people using shift during writing the message, switching keyboard, making queues.. etc. |
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I also find it irritating that when I capitalise letters in a chat message half the time I end up switching it to spec chat by mistake |
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I think no shortcut is better than this. If people need it, they can implement a helper widget with custom shortcuts. |
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As far as I'm aware these are all game UI configurable. In ZK we've partially solved the problem by unbinding spectator chat because it is of little use. Spectators talk to each other in ally chat. |
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I agree there are ways to override the default. But my opinion is that the same way the shortcuts can be implemented and default common minimum should "nothing" than "something, which is satisfying small group of users and annoying at least same amount of others". Engine should not presume UX unless it is completely necessary. Fighting with such arbitrary solutions is adding implementation cost to any new project which will start to use Spring. |
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Fix a4034b18b956cb8cbd790d856995a07c5d8dd0e2 committed to develop branch: fix 0004389 due to Windows sticky-keys crap double-tapping alt+ctrl+a now toggles chatswitchally double-tapping alt+ctrl+s now toggles chatswitchspec chatswitchall now has no default binding, repo: spring changeset id: 8695 |
| Date Modified | Username | Field | Change |
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| 2014-05-13 13:28 | silentwings | New Issue | |
| 2014-05-13 14:56 | Jools | Note Added: 0013078 | |
| 2014-06-17 13:58 | silentwings | Note Added: 0013289 | |
| 2014-06-17 14:00 | silentwings | Note Edited: 0013289 | |
| 2014-06-17 15:57 | Jools | Note Added: 0013290 | |
| 2014-06-17 17:16 | silentwings | Note Added: 0013291 | |
| 2014-06-17 17:16 | silentwings | Note Edited: 0013291 | |
| 2016-08-24 20:29 | PepeAmpere | Note Added: 0016616 | |
| 2016-08-26 14:22 | FLOZi | Note Added: 0016625 | |
| 2017-09-03 03:09 | PepeAmpere | Note Added: 0018330 | |
| 2017-09-03 03:12 | Google_Frog | Note Added: 0018331 | |
| 2017-09-03 12:21 | PepeAmpere | Note Added: 0018335 | |
| 2017-09-03 14:38 | Kloot | Changeset attached | => spring develop a4034b18 |
| 2017-09-03 14:38 | Kloot | Note Added: 0018340 | |
| 2017-09-03 14:38 | Kloot | Assigned To | => Kloot |
| 2017-09-03 14:38 | Kloot | Status | new => resolved |
| 2017-09-03 14:38 | Kloot | Resolution | open => fixed |
