Spring:1944 dev and testing

smoth · Post by **smoth** » 07 Oct 2007, 04:55

I AM MASTER CHIEF!

rattle · Post by **rattle** » 07 Oct 2007, 08:08

You belong in a -------

RavingManiac · Post by **RavingManiac** » 07 Oct 2007, 08:39

Could someone upload a beta or something? Community feedback is important to the development of a mod.

Nemo · Post by **Nemo** » 07 Oct 2007, 08:45

Community feedback is only really useful once we've exhausted all the problems we can find with limited testing. Additionally, the community as a whole tends to give crappy feedback along the lines of "omgz why there no tiger?" and such nonsense.

Therefore, we're not going to be posting a build until we're good and ready.
Edit: to be fair, many individuals are fine. which is why we have lots of people outside the S44 team helping to test. the issue is that the general public sucks at giving useful feedback.

In other news, in rewriting the run script I've made it about three times as efficient on the move (from 1.5% CPU usage from scripts with 50 guys on the move to 0.5% CPU usage with 50 guys on the move), and way more efficient on stopping (old scripts go up to 5% of CPU usage when they stop, then slowly go down to 2-3% while idle, new ones go straight to 0%). This should make a fairly noticeable difference in large games for people with mid-low end CPUs. For those with ridiculous CPUs that can handle it, they'll just look better and be less buggy.

I'm still working out the kinks, but once it's all set expect some better, less buggy, and way more efficient run cycles.

Pressure Line · Post by **Pressure Line** » 07 Oct 2007, 10:17

Nemo wrote:Additionally, the community as a whole tends to give crappy feedback along the lines of "omgz why there no tiger?" and such nonsense.

thats been my experience. plus, the balance is a bit different from what people are used to, i know there will be a lot of whingeing about that.

Pressure Line · Post by **Pressure Line** » 07 Oct 2007, 11:50

this still needs fixing as well nemo...

FLOZi · Post by **FLOZi** » 07 Oct 2007, 13:41

Is it only the US truck that does that?

Zpock · Post by **Zpock** » 07 Oct 2007, 13:47

Now that's a nice and tight defensive formation.

FLOZi · Post by **FLOZi** » 07 Oct 2007, 13:56

Anyway, there will of course be a public release in due time, just as there was with the previous version. It is fairly radically different in gameplay to that though, nevermind alphabet soup mods.

Warlord Zsinj · Post by **Warlord Zsinj** » 07 Oct 2007, 15:04

Heh, reminds me of the schiltron from R:TW Barbarian Invasion ^_^

Snipawolf · Post by **Snipawolf** » 07 Oct 2007, 19:30

looks like about 20 people crammed into one small circular foxhole, heheheh

W0w00t · Post by **W0w00t** » 07 Oct 2007, 19:38

SpikedHelmet wrote:
W0w00t wrote:
Pressure Line wrote: ive taken the liberty of sending you the SVN details submarine :)
I want the SVN details too.
Yes, and who are you?

A friend of Treelor, if you know him.

SpikedHelmet · Post by **SpikedHelmet** » 07 Oct 2007, 20:34

No, I don't.

Neddie · Post by **Neddie** » 07 Oct 2007, 21:43

Thanks for the spam. Back on topic.

SpikedHelmet · Post by **SpikedHelmet** » 07 Oct 2007, 22:03

Fixed the transport problem.
Fixed several missing corpses.
Added unique British HQ model.
Made proper British Barracks models.
Made corpses for US/British HQ and Barracks.

tombom · Post by **tombom** » 07 Oct 2007, 22:10

I think you broke the British HQ. Nothing can walk out the front, although after I built about 4 engineers who all wandered around a bit inside one guy came out the side.

SpikedHelmet · Post by **SpikedHelmet** » 07 Oct 2007, 22:12

SpikedHelmet · Post by **SpikedHelmet** » 07 Oct 2007, 22:14

Alright, fixed that. Thanks for the quick catch.

Neddie · Post by **Neddie** » 07 Oct 2007, 23:21

Spiked, there are three likely causes of your desync issues...

I quit the game to even up the teams after you left, so I may as well drop some possibilities here.

1. Different version of the client.
2. LUA differences.
3. Map/Game differences.

If you check all of those again, and the problem persists, we may need to ask the bigwigs.

SpikedHelmet · Post by **SpikedHelmet** » 08 Oct 2007, 17:25

Here's an idea for Logistics:

A) Unprotected logistics structures, like the two we currently have, should be extremely weak. Afterall, they are mainly made up of a bunch of fuel barrels and boxes of ammunition. The small one should be so weak that a single spray or two from a submachinegun will blow it; the large one should be similarly weak.

B) Ontop of the two logistics structures we currently have, we could give each side a "re-enforced logistics stockpile", something with sandbags or logs or whatever to protect it more than the others. It could give as much logistics as the larger one we currently have, perhaps take twice as long to build and take quite a pounding...

C) The "Logistics Park" could also be given to everyone -- essentially this is a giant structure of barrels and ammo boxes strewn about. Kind of like the "Fusion", it would serve as something capable of handling most of a player's logistics needs. But, being unprotected, it'd also still be kinda weak.

D) Double the logistics output of the small logistics, and up it's buildtime by 50-100%.

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