In what way? They both just don't cut it...Gota wrote:Just saw it.
A very cool movie...much better than the first one.
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It's good for what it is...a movie based on a cartoon series for kids...
The only thing i thought was lacking was the casting of Megan fox for the role she played also the last fight in the desert seemed a bit artificial...action was top notch jokes were ok...
The only thing i thought was lacking was the casting of Megan fox for the role she played also the last fight in the desert seemed a bit artificial...action was top notch jokes were ok...
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I'm sorry, but as a non tranformers fan previous to the films, a gritty realistic movie about giant tranforming robots would have turned me away in about a milisecond. The movie was well done, it made the source material interesting to non transformers fans.
Transformers is TERRIBLE scifi source material for a live action film. Bay made it work, and made it work well.
Transformers is TERRIBLE scifi source material for a live action film. Bay made it work, and made it work well.
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just because you don't like something doesn't make it of poor quality.
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reminds me that they are still releasing single core gamesForboding Angel wrote:I can get into the lobby with enough effort, but launching a game is a different story.
Sigh, basically I'mma have to wait tile october or november before the lobby devs start getting their act together I guess. That kinda sucks. But even then, they are releasing a fucking 32bit version of win7. FFS, 32bit is old, working on dead, and doomed to become outdated, lets get with the program people!
what the fuck people, dual cores have been around since like late 05 early 06?
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People keep saying "the source material sucks". Bay was obviously willing to throw out everything but the character's names - and that's fine. Nobody was expecting a picture-perfect adaptation of the cartoon show.SwiftSpear wrote:I'm sorry, but as a non tranformers fan previous to the films, a gritty realistic movie about giant tranforming robots would have turned me away in about a milisecond. The movie was well done, it made the source material interesting to non transformers fans.
Transformers is TERRIBLE scifi source material for a live action film. Bay made it work, and made it work well.
So, with that in mind, how is "space-travelling robots that masquerade as vehicles and beat each other up" any worse than "time-traveling robots that masquerade as humans and beat each other up" - cause the latter was the concept for one of the best action movies ever made.
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Anyone who was expecting anything deep story wise from this was bullshitting themselves. Also anyone expecting him to NOT delineate from the cartoon and its canon was also fooling themselves (esp. since the first movie showed us that).
This was only ever going to be a FUCK YEAH!! action-tastic, summer popcorn flick and thats what it was. Yeah some of the choices made were silly ,not enough screen time for some transformers, that random Terminator/transformer hybrid was just plain odd, and some of the humor was bloody stupid. BUT, it was still a perfectly viable 2+ hours of explosions, giant robots, and US Army shenanigans.
Also for whats its worth, there were a fair number of throwbacks to the original material, Jetfire and Prime combining jumps to mind. Really people if you expect Hollywood to basically make an $210 million version of an 80s sci-fi cartoon, please pass what your smoking so I can give it a try.
This was only ever going to be a FUCK YEAH!! action-tastic, summer popcorn flick and thats what it was. Yeah some of the choices made were silly ,not enough screen time for some transformers, that random Terminator/transformer hybrid was just plain odd, and some of the humor was bloody stupid. BUT, it was still a perfectly viable 2+ hours of explosions, giant robots, and US Army shenanigans.
Also for whats its worth, there were a fair number of throwbacks to the original material, Jetfire and Prime combining jumps to mind. Really people if you expect Hollywood to basically make an $210 million version of an 80s sci-fi cartoon, please pass what your smoking so I can give it a try.
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I don't expect him to re-make the cartoons.
I just expect him not to suck. James Cameron and Steven Spielberg can make action movies that don't insult my intelligence.
This is coming on the heels of movies like Iron Man and Dark Night, which show that you can make a solid film and not just a tacky popcorn movie based on a cartoony theme.
I just expect him not to suck. James Cameron and Steven Spielberg can make action movies that don't insult my intelligence.
This is coming on the heels of movies like Iron Man and Dark Night, which show that you can make a solid film and not just a tacky popcorn movie based on a cartoony theme.
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The terminator plot was TERRIBLE. It's so full of plot holes and reality gaps. What makes up for it was the quality of the action, the compelling nature of the characters, and the human tendency to fear technology, and how the films played into that.Pxtl wrote:So, with that in mind, how is "space-travelling robots that masquerade as vehicles and beat each other up" any worse than "time-traveling robots that masquerade as humans and beat each other up" - cause the latter was the concept for one of the best action movies ever made.
The transformer source material has basically nothing redeemable except "robots are cool!". The plot twists and characterizations are reminicient of GI Joe, and were primiarly constructed for children. There is just SO little for an adult mind to bite into in the source material. It had to be tweaked. You might be right in saying that it could have gone a different direction than Bay took it, but ultimately, what I'm saying is, you can't blame bay for manipulating the source material, the source material was too weak to begin with, and the end result was entertaining, maby not heart wrenching or award winning, but entertaining still.
If it must be criticized, find something other than "it wasn't true to the source material" because that was NEVER the point of the films. The point was to cash in on a popular icon of our past and make something fun in the process.
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When did I say anything like that? I said the opposite - that Bay can't say "the source material sucked" as an excuse for making a crappy movie, because he ignored it.
TF wasn't bad because Bumblebee was a camaro instead of a bug. It was bad because it had an endless pile of cringeworthy humour distracting from the giant robots and T&A.
TF wasn't bad because Bumblebee was a camaro instead of a bug. It was bad because it had an endless pile of cringeworthy humour distracting from the giant robots and T&A.
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I'm back! Since I was last here they've started releasing comics based on the film canon now, they're even on the iphone app store?! Have there been any other advances since I got back?
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The jokes were corny, but I liked them. I feel bay was smart to not try to take the platform too seriously.