Another Article- and not about the boring Economic Crisis

[Sleksa]

This is no longer the case. I believe the current US economy will starting now, begin pulling back to the weaker pre-war economy and this will set up foreign countries in a position to start a war in an equal, rather than lesser, economic position in comparison to the US

OH SHIT the americans cant crusade around the world anymore :(((((

Good thing that you are in good relationships with the rest of the world like south america, middle east, africa and asia, which would do anything to stop the downfall of usa!

[Scratch]

I got a bit hot headed there.

Personal debt is gotta be a primary issue I think, when you see Americans running around in big trucks with $250k houses and every possible posession, it doesn't exactly arouse a sense of pity.

So theres one reason this 'crisis' doesn't bother me much, seems as though people willing to work can still find jobs easily enough especially if they are willing to travel. In Canada the situation barely touches us at all. But also, our country is much smaller and easier to manage than such a large cumbersome economy to the south.

My personal experience makes me think one of the big factors here is immigration. The U.S. can't compete with China in alot of areas, because time is the enemy of the U.S. economy as China will copy a design and then outnumber 10 to 1 the amount of people they have producing it, and their product quality is becoming #1.

Here in Canada we are allowing many many more immigrants in and they are rapidly filling manufacturing sector positions. In the states, they are fighting them out and hurting, I think.

What do you think?

[Scratch]

This is no longer the case. I believe the current US economy will starting now, begin pulling back to the weaker pre-war economy and this will set up foreign countries in a position to start a war in an equal, rather than lesser, economic position in comparison to the US

OH SHIT the americans cant crusade around the world anymore ((((

Good thing that you are in good relationships with the rest of the world like south america, middle east, africa and asia, which would do anything to stop the downfall of usa!

Depends on whether or not you believe in the USA, whether or not you believe aid should be sent to third world countries, and whether or not you depend on south africa for your food or you work for it yourself and contribute to this economy.

My grandpa worked for it and he got shot in western europe over it. It's a shame now that generation is gone, and we have plenty of american/canada haters in the world to thank for the freedom they got from this powerful economy.

there ya go

[Sleksa]

we have plenty of american/canada haters in the world to thank for the freedom they got from this powerful economy.

I like how you speak of freedom and at the same time forget what happened to chile when you didnt like its president (first refugees to come into finland were from chile)

maybe i should invoke my old list to you again;

Vietnam war
South Vietnamese civilian dead: 1,581,000
Cambodian civilian dead: ~700,000
Laotian civilian dead: ~50,000

iraq:
http://www.iraqbodycount.org/database/incidents/page1

Afganistan: ~50.000 dead according to some estimates

Indian wars:
most mainstream scholars tend not to use the term "genocide" to describe the overall depopulation of American natives. However, a number of historians, rather than seeing the whole history of European colonization as one long act of genocide, do cite specific wars and campaigns which were arguably genocidal in intent and effect. Usually included among these are the Pequot War (1637) and campaigns waged against tribes in California starting in the 1850s.

im counting out dozens of cia assisted "accidents" since i cant remember all the places where those guys have been killing people in south america, but im sure your best intentions were just to spread freedom and democracy with all those armed uprisings and backing up generals and assasinating people you didnt like.

Also think about the current situation in cuba, which you are trying to choke back to a nice resort-neo-colony for the us, or excuse me, trying to liberate and democratize.

however; you did help the europe (or namely, the french and the brits) in world war 2

My grandpa worked for it and he got shot in western europe over it.

BUT: the casualties the us suffered were nonexsistant to any other country, large parts of france, and poland were left in ruins, with germany being almost totally wiped out(the new invention of carpet bombing used on cities like dresden), not even mentioning the horrors and casualties that happened in russia.

[SwiftSpear]

we have plenty of american/canada haters in the world to thank for the freedom they got from this powerful economy.

What does Canada have to do with anything? I have had people assume I'm American online, but I've only ever really seen Americans hate on Canadians.

[Scratch]

Thanks guys for your time and thought.

Swiftspear

more than once already I've heard this term 'americas hat'. (not sure what to make of that one) as far as arguments go theres nothing on them but people hate us just as much as the south I find.

Sleksa

I'm trying to figure out what your argument is. From what I gather, your list includes deaths from the Vietnam war, Iraq and Afghanistan, and some other 3rd world countries.

Are you implying that the US has inflicted these casualities, and without justification?

I've read your post about 4 times in order to try make sense of it.

From what I can tell, you are having trouble with the definition of genocide, and are trying to blame all of these deaths directly on America.

Now I have a high respect for America's history as well as our own. If, from your high position to lay judgment down on others, you have a valid and substantive argument against them or us, please bring it forth.

[SwiftSpear]

"America's hat" was made up by Americans.

[BaNa]

Scratch,

This is how the US maintained such a budget deficit since WW2 on by supplying commodities to countries hopelessly dependent on it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balance_of_trade

The US has had a trade deficit since the 70's. The fact is that because the dollar was the worlds reserve currency, the US can fund it's deficit by printing money (or issuing T-bills).

As for the rest of the world being ungrateful, here's my take:

Some Americans seem to view their own countries interventions in the world like that of a benevolent policeman who rains justice down on those who do bad and helps those who are suffering.

Most of the world takes a more cynical point of view. We see some of the questionable interventions (see South America for instance) and ask : "Is this what a moral country would do?"

With this doubt in our mind, it is hard to look at the rest of the US foreign policy and accept the "moral" reasoning behind it. There are worse things happening now than what Saddam was doing in Iraq (not protecting the man...), the catastrophes of Rwanda (note: am not french and yes they where bastards too.) and Darfur jump to ones mind.

There is nothing explicitly wrong with a country protecting it's interests, what galls people is when they protect their interests and then pretend it is for the greater good.