Expand and Exterminate version 0.163 Released

Decimator · Post by **Decimator** » 04 Jul 2006, 15:12

Yes, learn to move your armies. Air transports ftw.

Zoombie · Post by **Zoombie** » 04 Jul 2006, 17:47

Slow? I once saw a GD player run circles around a URC player in Epic. How? Air Transports, and lots of them.

Forboding Angel · Post by **Forboding Angel** » 04 Jul 2006, 20:23

guys will you please stop derailing the topic???

We are discussing normal EE here, not epic. I think there is an epic thread to post stuff in.

Atm we are discussing why ppl don't play GD.

Fang, could you and 1. 2. 3. in front of the faction names, to put GD first and with next release see how many people stick with them?

That would be a good test I think.

Neddie · Post by **Neddie** » 04 Jul 2006, 21:03

That should convert new players for their first game or so, given my earlier statement. The real issue comes when NI appears; GD is popular among a lot of the experienced players, but NI will not be perfectly balanced upon release, and getting a following will be delayed somewhat.

unpossible · Post by **unpossible** » 04 Jul 2006, 21:08

neddiedrow wrote:That should convert new players for their first game or so, given my earlier statement. The real issue comes when NI appears; GD is popular among a lot of the experienced players, but NI will not be perfectly balanced upon release, and getting a following will be delayed somewhat.

...unless it OMGWTFPWNSYOURMUM

Fanger · Post by **Fanger** » 04 Jul 2006, 23:11

Version 0.161 Changelog:

-GD/URC lvl 2 air attack aircraft now utilize a missile weapon for increased accuracy...

-GD lvl 3 Heavy Rocket Tank added in..

-GD Light Energy Production Turbine added in for early game energy spamming

-Torpedo weapons rebalanced

-Submarine costs rebalanced

-Ship Laser weapon range reduced

-Aircraft plants are now only buildable by their lvl of builder, for example a lvl 1 builder now only builds a lvl 1 air factory..

-lvl 1 anti aircraft turret dmg reduced vs lvl 2/3 aircraft

-Commanders can now build shipyards

-URC now has a lvl 1 Stealth/Cloaked assault bot

-URC now has seperate factories for its lvl 2/3 Cloaked/Stealth units

-All stealth units have had their decloak radius reduced significantly

-All stealth units have had their cloak cost reduced somewhat

-GD lvl 3 Heavy cruiser turret turn speed increased

-URC lvl 3 Fortress turret health reduced to 6000, it now takes 65 seconds roughly to build and will cost you 50 metal and 1000 energy per tick to do so..

Zoombie · Post by **Zoombie** » 04 Jul 2006, 23:13

All sound good.

knorke · Post by **knorke** » 05 Jul 2006, 02:38

-Aircraft plants are now only buildable by their lvl of builder, for example a lvl 1 builder now only builds a lvl 1 air factory..

hm, I dont know, doesnt this take away some tactic of what buildtree to chose?
This way it might get too linear and it'll be harder to surprise the enemy with special buildorders he is not prepared for.

Fanger · Post by **Fanger** » 05 Jul 2006, 03:46

Knorke.. the reason for that change was that people seemed to be going to lvl 2 air asap.. especially on the URC side.. because of this most people had lvl 2 air before lvl 2 ground, meaning lvl 2 anti air turrets werent really available. I have noticed this occuring quite a bit.. because of this people wanted me to boost the anti air, this had the main effect of making the lvl 1 anti air a catch all defence weapon and basically relagating lvl 2/3 anti air to a curiosity. Essentially what I wanted to do was set it up so that you should feasibly be able to build lvl 2 anti air before lvl 2 air so you at least have that as an option to use against that air. This also allows me to reasonably tone down lvl 1 anti air turrets making air slightly more effective. lvl 2 air is to devistating in a lvl 1 enviroment to be so easily gotten to, I dont think this is becoming strategically limiting to remove the factory.

FuzionMonkey · Post by **FuzionMonkey** » 05 Jul 2006, 04:50

thank goodness. lvl2 air attack was horrible.

knorke · Post by **knorke** » 05 Jul 2006, 05:10

ok, that makes sense.
keep up the good work!

Zoombie · Post by **Zoombie** » 05 Jul 2006, 05:38

I never fell into the 'omfg! Air attack!" thing, cuase I always build lots and lots and lots of AA turrets. I find bulk usualy makes up for skill, at least as a GD player.

Zoombie · Post by **Zoombie** » 05 Jul 2006, 05:40

So the NI are going to have a metior shower device? Cool. I'd load up the metiors with biological weapons, or something, but thats because I am rather overkilly.

Fanger · Post by **Fanger** » 05 Jul 2006, 06:21

OK .. Im going to make another release tomorrow.. reason being that in my extensive testing with journier to make sure the ships werent borked after the torpedo rehaul we discovered that stealth units are nigh undetectable.. this was completely unintentional and Needs to be fixed immediately..

So basically quick vs .162 changlog is:

-Stealth units detect radius increased to be detectable

-Sub speed decreased

-LvL 3 URC interceptor adjusted some more

-1 GD floating building altored

Decimator · Post by **Decimator** » 05 Jul 2006, 18:20

Zoombie, we all know you'd load up the asteroids with S-02, so don't try to deny it.

Drone_Fragger · Post by **Drone_Fragger** » 05 Jul 2006, 18:36

Just use a big lump of uranium instead of Asteroids. That way, It'll poison all the people nearby, And chances are, upon impact it will reach critical mass and explode.

Fanger · Post by **Fanger** » 05 Jul 2006, 19:55

I have released version 0.162 which should be good

Version 0.162 Changelog:

-GD/URC lvl 2 air attack aircraft now utilize a missile weapon for increased accuracy...

-GD lvl 3 Heavy Rocket Tank added in..

-GD Light Energy Production Turbine added in for early game energy spamming

-Torpedo weapons rebalanced

-Submarine costs rebalanced

-Ship Laser weapon range reduced

-Aircraft plants are now only buildable by their lvl of builder, for example a lvl 1 builder now only builds a lvl 1 air factory..

-lvl 1 anti aircraft turret dmg reduced vs lvl 2/3 aircraft

-Commanders can now build shipyards

-URC now has a lvl 1 Stealth/Cloaked assault bot

-URC now has seperate factories for its lvl 2/3 Cloaked/Stealth units

-All stealth units have had their decloak radius reduced significantly

-All stealth units have had their cloak cost reduced somewhat

-GD lvl 3 Heavy cruiser turret turn speed increased

-URC lvl 3 Fortress turret health reduced to 6000, it now takes 65 seconds roughly to build and will cost you 50 metal and 1000 energy per tick to do so

-Some minor graphical tweaks

-Stealth detection radius made good

-URC lvl 3 interceptor improved

-Sub speed reduced

Link: http://www.fileuniverse.com/?p=showitem&ID=3632

Drone_Fragger · Post by **Drone_Fragger** » 05 Jul 2006, 21:11

wasn't EE 0.162 epic meant to be realsed with this?

Johns_Volition · Post by **Johns_Volition** » 05 Jul 2006, 21:20

I tried the NI units.... am I right to assume that they will not get ships? They seem to be extremly strong at this point of time, but very nice work so far.

Zoombie · Post by **Zoombie** » 05 Jul 2006, 21:28

Decimator wrote:Zoombie, we all know you'd load up the asteroids with S-02, so don't try to deny it.

Well the only problem with that is you have to find a way to NOT die when the S-02 swarms out of the immideate area.

on topic: How did you get the N.I units? Also didn't we cover the simple fact that the NI WILL NOT GET A NAVY! at least fifty odd times?

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Expand and Exterminate version 0.163 Released