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Coresair
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Re: League of Legends

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I lol'd hard. Although often times I end up opening a can of rape on HIM as urgot....
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TheMightyOne
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Re: League of Legends

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All those Garen jokes used to be much funnier when he was godlike. How do you like that. I'm tank Cho, tons of armor/mr. Garen spins to win next to me. What do you know, 1000 dmg from a single spin. His items? 2 sunfire capes and force of nature.

But to be honest I think they overdid it. Now even if you get some dmg items his dmg is very meh.
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Gota
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Re: League of Legends

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So...losing ranked games like a boss...

I usually get positive scores no matter who i play with, but my win ratio is still lower than 50%...
I don't feed at start... I often get first blood... I try to buy wards no matter what role i play(cause teammates at my ELO, 1k, usually dont even if they play junglers or support chars)....I don't go ramboing in mid late game alone...I try to focus the correct champs if I'm a tank and if I'm a carry...I try to build based on the enemy build....I try to not engage when its a lost battle...I try to not waste summoner spells unless i really have to...I try to pick smart during champion selection....I try to only last hit(ideally always last hitting all minion wave) and not push lanes when its not necessary...

I don't know what I'm doing wrong anymore...
I'm even polite and constructive and helpfull towards my teammates when they feed or just play bad...


I started playing ranked a while ago when i was green and failed a bit than stopped for al ong time till i improved but now i cant seem to undo my shitty ELO.
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Gota
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Re: League of Legends

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TheMightyOne wrote:All those Garen jokes used to be much funnier when he was godlike. How do you like that. I'm tank Cho, tons of armor/mr. Garen spins to win next to me. What do you know, 1000 dmg from a single spin. His items? 2 sunfire capes and force of nature.

But to be honest I think they overdid it. Now even if you get some dmg items his dmg is very meh.
He is still effective versus newbies which is most of the community, obviously.
I see him in streams of high ELO players in Solo queue...I think I even saw garen in a premade in some finals or semi finals of a major tourney..
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I don't know...I have seen a lot more crappy garens then I have good....But I have seen some godly garens. I think those who still play him as a "I go by myself and kill everything" champion are those who suck.

But when a garen is a team player, it brings me PAIN. The silence immediately followed by the spin wears me down and sometimes prevents me from escaping. And then his ulti early on....dear god....
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Re: League of Legends

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Gota wrote:So...losing ranked games like a boss...

I usually get positive scores no matter who i play with, but my win ratio is still lower than 50%...
I don't feed at start... I often get first blood... I try to buy wards no matter what role i play(cause teammates at my ELO, 1k, usually dont even if they play junglers or support chars)....I don't go ramboing in mid late game alone...I try to focus the correct champs if I'm a tank and if I'm a carry...I try to build based on the enemy build....I try to not engage when its a lost battle...I try to not waste summoner spells unless i really have to...I try to pick smart during champion selection....I try to only last hit(ideally always last hitting all minion wave) and not push lanes when its not necessary...

I don't know what I'm doing wrong anymore...
I'm even polite and constructive and helpfull towards my teammates when they feed or just play bad...


I started playing ranked a while ago when i was green and failed a bit than stopped for al ong time till i improved but now i cant seem to undo my shitty ELO.
You forgot to mention which champions you play. Apart from performing well in your lane you sometimes gotta make sure to help out other lanes aswell, gank etc. Attitude is really super important in solo queue. Being "polite" by not calling people names and insulting them etc. is usually not enough. Often there is a person who will do just that so you gotta motivate your team, sounds cheesy but if you don't do this the insults will make your allies play worse.

I had a ranked recently where my allies started to yell at each other in champ select. and not just things like "shut up noob" but srsly going all the way. So i just tried to make a joke out of that to take off the pressure. What happens? We get first blood, i congratulate the ally and we roll over our opponents.

People write about this on the forum and they are right. You gotta take charge, and i dont mean something like giving orders to every single person but setting teams objectives is really really important and helps a lot. Things like "2 enemies top, go drag now!"
or "they will get dragon, quick rush baron"
call misses even if they are not in your lane, ping the path on the map.

Doing all this will still not secure your win but it will increase your chances.

And in low elo, you gotta carry. Pick champions you can carry with. Shaco might be the king of early game but its very difficult to be useful lategame apart from split pushing.

Good champions to carry solo queue are carries with escapes and good gankers, dont take champions that are easily kited and or killed.

kassadin, corki, trist, nocturne come to mind.
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Lately I've had some success playing one of three champions- Corki, Shen or Warwick- and offering constructive criticism to my team and have gotten to the incredible elo of 1260!(Which is the highest I've been since Corki's rockets were ridiculously OP). I struggle though when these champions are banned/taken or we need AP damage. My best caster is probably Heimerdinger, but I'm afraid my team will snowball into raging self destruction. He also needs a team with some reliable CC for his CC to be reliable, and people don't often seem to like to pick champions with a lot of CC.
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Just played a game as a tank...
Couldnt be carry cause nobody wanted to play tank(or jungler) and the enemy team had a tank.

So...things going well..roughly the same score and towers...Jarvan feeds at bottom but its ok we make up for it...
Than mid game and transitioning to late game...
Nobody buys wards except me though i beg them to...
Jarvan decided to build only tank items even though i said was tank..
In almost all team fights one of our carries would fail hard...

#1 we were going be to defend the middle lane, the second tower(first was already down).
they were trailing behind us, we saw them where they were..anivia is retreating and than decides to turn from the jungle near the lane entrance and bumps right into them than backs off rammus runs after her , i flash in stun him headbutt, than go after squish karthus she locks herself with ice wall together with rammus..team fight failed....

#2 Same location, ashe goes for rammus that was attacking the tower he retreats back to his team she flashes after him to finish him i flash after stun but she already took dmg and dies..tower eventually fell when they dived for it since we were outnumbered.

#3 I warded baron they started attacking it, we came, killed them.
Only time we won a team battle.

#4 i pinged baron when enemy team was busy and in sight...
We did it they didnt even know, didnt have a ward.
I asked to stay together severla times before.
I pinged mid we all going mid but fucking jarvan decides to stay top overextanding, i see ,i ping we all go top he gets caught we lose initiation, eventually lose team fight..
And thats basiclly it...

at end game they bought 1 ward each and never used it...had it at game stats...

I had ok score most assists 6 kills 5 deaths..I dont know what else i could have done better...I dont know how to climb from this..
I cant ward properly alone all the time and afking newbies constantly drift and overextand in mid late game...Its impossible...
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Re: League of Legends

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1)Why pick alistar if somebody picked jarvan? usually the jarvans are very tanky.

2)why build alistar so tanky? correct me if i'm wrong but from what i've seen from livestreams and good alistars in my games all alistar needs is his ult to be tanky. So you either go HP/CDR or straight AP so E/Q combo kill their squishies.
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In my experience, below 1200 it is best to just play a carry.
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TheMightyOne
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Re: League of Legends

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DavetheBrave wrote:In my experience, below 1200 it is best to just play a carry.
or a champion you can play really well and who you can carry with. its true, basically you dont even need a tank or a jungler.
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when i started ranked i played malz and tho he isnt a carry, everyone at 1200 elo is so bad it was easy to carry anyway :S

im actually waiting before i play more ranked because i want to option to play more champs, as atm i play almost every AP carry but very little else.

ive recently learnt rammus and leblanc so i might go for some more ranked games with them as options
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Gota
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Re: League of Legends

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Valheru wrote:when i started ranked i played malz and tho he isnt a carry, everyone at 1200 elo is so bad it was easy to carry anyway :S

im actually waiting before i play more ranked because i want to option to play more champs, as atm i play almost every AP carry but very little else.

ive recently learnt rammus and leblanc so i might go for some more ranked games with them as options
rammus is useless in low ranked...They ban him all the time.
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Valheru
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Re: League of Legends

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thats cause he's massively OP lol, but if they ban rammus it means shen wont be banned so i can always take him if we need a tank
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whats op about him Oo
Hes only op against xins and master yi's who jump on him after he got thornmail ^^
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Takes over your guy eh doesn't afraid of any turrets. Etc

Personally I try to avoid him and focus his allies first.
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You can carry with malz, if you're good with him. the problem is though that if your team doesn't back you up in the teamfights you're pretty much fucked cuz you have no escapes whatsoever. flash/ghost ftw.
this; malz has been my main for a while now; he's almost like the character version of a mejais... if you're winning, he pushes the victory super fast and leaves the other team with almost nothing; but on the other hand if there isn't someone for him to hide behind or use as bait, he might as well not even be there at all. for all of his strengths it's pretty hard to make a comeback against a competent opposing team
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Re: League of Legends

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Now that I have enough experience with urgot to comment on him I will say the dude is a RAPE MACHINE. Even when I am escaping with him I can still snipe off a low squshy trying to join in the chase.....
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Gota
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OK i wont play ranked anymore.
I give up.
Maybe if they reset the ladder ill try again.
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Re: League of Legends

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Just played my first 3 ranked games, won all of them. I am at 1370 elo or something. The people seemed like good team players for now...
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