Can people play for fun and not only to win ??? (IN BA !!!)

Nixa · Post by **Nixa** » 06 Mar 2007, 22:17

Pick a map, watch a ba 1v1 and an xta 1v1, and count the llts.

Not defending BA here (well sorta but not intentially) but personally in a 1v1, llts are only used for expansion purposes to stop raiding as i am too lazy to guard my mexes with patrolling flashes (that and i lag so much llts never phail me). 1v1s are too open and fast to justify llt/hlt camp/crawl.

As for the comnap/combomb issue, it's all part of the game, if you're not happy set it too com ends. After about 8 mins the com becomes relatively useless anyway, so using him as a bomb can be far more preductive than keeping him alive.

And as for you drolly

Try to be less violent against me !!!

Until then, can you please quietly remove yourself from this community

It wasn't violent, I asked nicely

LordMatt · Post by **LordMatt** » 06 Mar 2007, 22:56

drolito wrote: mmmmh ... u want ? u know the word "Democracy" ?

Spring is an oligarchy controlled by developers, mod makers, moderators, and the better players. As has been said many times before, play com ends, or not with nubs if you don't want to have to deal with com naps/com bombs of your allies.

Peet · Post by **Peet** » 06 Mar 2007, 22:57

Kinda hard for drolito to not play with nubs tbh

LordMatt · Post by **LordMatt** » 06 Mar 2007, 22:59

LordMatt wrote:
drolito wrote: mmmmh ... u want ? u know the word "Democracy" ?
Spring is an oligarchy controlled by developers, mod makers, moderators, and the better players. As has been said many times before, play com ends, or not with nubs if you don't want to have to deal with com naps/com bombs of your allies.

KDR_11k wrote: How do you spot nubs, when they say "I can't play well" or just by their rank? Rank doesn't say which mod or possibly map they played, as someone who plays "alternative" mods I often encounter star rank people who never played that mod before so the rank doesn't necessarily identify a non-nub.

If I'm looking for a serious game, they had better at least have 4 Chev or identify themselves as a smurf. It's not fair to their teammates if they totally suck. I only play BA, so I don't have to worry about "alternative mods"

flop · Post by **flop** » 06 Mar 2007, 23:31

http://replays.unknown-files.net/?176
nuff said

Ishach · Post by **Ishach** » 06 Mar 2007, 23:33

jackalope wrote:well the reason I play BA is pretty much because in XTA the units are too big and can't be properly microed.

qft

manored · Post by **manored** » 07 Mar 2007, 00:06

Ishach wrote:
jackalope wrote:well the reason I play BA is pretty much because in XTA the units are too big and can't be properly microed.

qft

In fact that sounds strange but I remember that the XTA hovers are like 4 times bigger than BA ones so it can in fact cause trouble...

pintle · Post by **pintle** » 07 Mar 2007, 00:21

Im not entirely sure how the size means they can't be properly microd. If the relative size of units was different, i would definitely agree.

I have to say though, in the past month or so i have specced/played a few of the better BA players, and you guys do have very impressive micro skills, you should come and gratify your egos by spanking me at XTA more often

Peet · Post by **Peet** » 07 Mar 2007, 00:39

lol It's just another smug-style empty troll

#smug wrote: [17:33:11] <[SmuG]Isaac> "well the reason I play BA is pretty much because in XTA the units are too big and can't be properly microed."
[17:33:12] <[SmuG]Isaac> hahaha
[17:35:08] <[WG]Peet[ukm]> lol
[17:35:16] <[WG]Peet[ukm]> theyre all the same o_O
[17:35:25] <[SmuG]Isaac> thats the joke
[17:35:35] <[WG]Peet[ukm]> uh...huh
[17:35:37] <[SmuG]Isaac> every time someone says something about XTA, XTA players come out of the woodwork ot defend it

Neddie · Post by **Neddie** » 07 Mar 2007, 03:26

Why do you think I don't respond to Issac most of the time? He's using two layers of meaning and some liberal sarcasm to brighten our days.

jackalope · Post by **jackalope** » 07 Mar 2007, 03:27

smug doesn't troll just to cause trouble. If you look deeply at the topics we bring up, I think you will see that we are in fact satirizing ridiculous trends in the community. To take this case as an example, people often have idiotic arguments about what mod is good and what sucks about other mods, or what type of gameplay is lame and unacceptable. We merely try to satirize such unproductive attitudes by exaggerating them to such extreme amounts, that the sarcasm should be visible. Anyone who has played at least 1 game of XTA knows that what I said is a joke, because the units are basically the same size. Most peoples' complaints about the various mods are based on false assumptions, and that's what I was poking fun at.

pintle · Post by **pintle** » 07 Mar 2007, 04:29

dont i feel dumb

Nixa · Post by **Nixa** » 07 Mar 2007, 06:36

yuss now i finally have a reason to kick and mute peet from our channel

hunterw · Post by **hunterw** » 07 Mar 2007, 08:19

jackalope wrote:smug doesn't troll just to cause trouble. If you look deeply at the topics we bring up, I think you will see that we are in fact satirizing ridiculous trends in the community. To take this case as an example, people often have idiotic arguments about what mod is good and what sucks about other mods, or what type of gameplay is lame and unacceptable. We merely try to satirize such unproductive attitudes by exaggerating them to such extreme amounts, that the sarcasm should be visible. Anyone who has played at least 1 game of XTA knows that what I said is a joke, because the units are basically the same size. Most peoples' complaints about the various mods are based on false assumptions, and that's what I was poking fun at.

im gona quote this so more ppl hopefully read it, but it's probably in vain because it's too long for most ppl here to read

jackalope · Post by **jackalope** » 07 Mar 2007, 09:25

I know. Hell I'm the one who wrote it and I didn't even read the whole thing.

1v0ry_k1ng · Post by **1v0ry_k1ng** » 07 Mar 2007, 10:01

drolito wrote: do u think we have to say that to all the players at all the beginning of a game ?
and do u know what 10 scout with an atlas do against 2 fighters or 2 tasty spot ? only 5 scout destroyed ... and an atlas whioch can unload the com ^^

lies! defences target the most expensive units first. which in this case would be the commander. if you get combombed every game then your playing with a load of faggots, try playing with the clans and good players for a decent game.

well the reason I play BA is pretty much because in XTA the units are too big and can't be properly microed.

but you cant properly micro BA units because you have so many and indivually they are worthless...

tombom · Post by **tombom** » 07 Mar 2007, 10:17

1v0ry_k1ng wrote:
well the reason I play BA is pretty much because in XTA the units are too big and can't be properly microed.
but you cant properly micro BA units because you have so many and indivually they are worthless...

For crying out loud.

Can you read the thread? Your pointless BA bashing is just ridiculous anyway, never mind how stupid it looks to post after the guy who posted it said he was joking.

Nixa · Post by **Nixa** » 07 Mar 2007, 10:20

Even on threads that have nothing to do with mods or which is better, it still turns into a flame war

Keep up the good work

drolito · Post by **drolito** » 07 Mar 2007, 10:54

LordMatt wrote:As has been said many times before, play com ends, or not with nubs if you don't want to have to deal with com naps/com bombs of your allies.

Com end suck ... its not the same battle ... if u play com end when one player is dead its end if he was a strategic point of defense ... i have another good solution for that : dont play with those who have already done this sort of thing in my game ...

P3374H wrote:Kinda hard for drolito to not play with nubs tbh

Sure man : i only play since 4 monthes ... so i play only with noobs ... but its sure all the "good" players make combomb or comnap or others bad thing and i prefere to play 1 hour than 10 mn in a battle ... so that's why i prefere to play against noob who dont combomb than against pretentious players like u !!!

moreover u are a funny man : i have never play with u so u dont know how i fight ...

Neddie · Post by **Neddie** » 07 Mar 2007, 11:11

Nixa wrote:Even on threads that have nothing to do with mods or which is better, it still turns into a flame war

Keep up the good work

I'm with Nixa on this one.

Spring RTS Engine

Can people play for fun and not only to win ??? (IN BA !!!)