Lippy, he isn't referring to you much at all.
For reference, I try to host one non-E&E/AA/XTA game a week or two. Last time it was Gundam. Time before it was Battletech. Before that it was SWS. What do you guys want hosted next time I can?
Question for Caydr and other stuff
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Felix the Cat
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Guess you're just a better person than me, then.FizWizz wrote:
I would like to take exception to that statement as well... By the end of my first game I was already an E&E player, not that good of one, mind you, but I understood how it rolled.
Also, Lippy, I've never read your posts in question so I'd have a hard time referring to them.
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1v0ry_k1ng
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I wouldnt say the EE guys are really fanboys though... they dont go round trying to ram EE down peoples throats, its just if random douchebags appear on the forum like "lol dis is crap" everyone e-beats the e-crap out of them. the AA thread is unbearable.
last time I checked there was such a high idiot to veteren ratio that pretty much any useful balancing tips are swamped by idiotic crap. I had a read earlier though and the "no speedmetalers" tag seems to have done a world of good... now just needs a "No players with less than 30 hours gametime" tag.
last time I checked there was such a high idiot to veteren ratio that pretty much any useful balancing tips are swamped by idiotic crap. I had a read earlier though and the "no speedmetalers" tag seems to have done a world of good... now just needs a "No players with less than 30 hours gametime" tag.
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Lolsquad_Steven
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anti aa person : lol aa balance suqs caydr steals the models and does no job for the sake of the mod, omg lol let's smoke him out and purge the foulness of aa from this purity of spring
a casual player: lol wtf my orcoens r gon3 w7f my sp33dm4tl is ruined :'''(
let's have a whole week without these being mentioned somewhere.
aa is fine, well but not perfectly balanced , looks good and is fun to play.
What more can you ask for a mod? o,o
a casual player: lol wtf my orcoens r gon3 w7f my sp33dm4tl is ruined :'''(
let's have a whole week without these being mentioned somewhere.
aa is fine, well but not perfectly balanced , looks good and is fun to play.
What more can you ask for a mod? o,o
I dont know.. BUT I can ask that people not make "comments" out of hand about mods.. we really ought to just take a break from that for a while, because it almost always causes angst and emo drama.. that is just silly to be honest..
People here need to all step back and realize that we all here have our differences, but most of the people on this forum derserve some respect, and should not have defend themselves from being sniped at in threads by derogatory comments..
And no getting a thicker skin is not the way, acting appropriately in the first place is what we ought to do..
This would be for everyone..
that ends my self righteaous post..
People here need to all step back and realize that we all here have our differences, but most of the people on this forum derserve some respect, and should not have defend themselves from being sniped at in threads by derogatory comments..
And no getting a thicker skin is not the way, acting appropriately in the first place is what we ought to do..
This would be for everyone..
that ends my self righteaous post..
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Felix the Cat
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Too bad this thread isn't about AA the mod, it's about the silly AA fanboys that attack you for any slight upon the Holy Name and Works of C_ydr.Sleksa wrote:anti aa person : lol aa balance suqs caydr steals the models and does no job for the sake of the mod, omg lol let's smoke him out and purge the foulness of aa from this purity of spring
a casual player: lol wtf my orcoens r gon3 w7f my sp33dm4tl is ruined :'''(
let's have a whole week without these being mentioned somewhere.
aa is fine, well but not perfectly balanced , looks good and is fun to play.
What more can you ask for a mod? o,o
It goes more like this:
Me: "Mavs might be a bit unbalanced, they should be removed because C_ydr can't seem to get the balance right on them."
C_ydr Fanboy #1: "OMG you know nothing about AA you noob, everything's balanced fine."
C_ydr Fanboy #2: "OMG don't insult C_ydr, don't you know that he spends hours of his life volunteering to keep up AA, you have no right to insult him."
C_ydr Fanboy #3: "OMG mavs are fine they aren't overpowered or underpowered, stfu noob"
C_ydr Fanboy #4: "C_ydr makes AA of his own free will OMG you are insulting him, stop it"
C_ydr Fanboy #5: "If you don't like AA don't play it!"
C_ydr Fanboy #6: "stfu noob c_ydr = awesome AA = awesome omgwtflol"
ee: "PENIS PENIS PENIS LOL I R DUMARSE"
That's what I'm speaking out against.
For the record I think that AA's balance is, for the most part, reasonable. There are still units that are overpowered and units that are underpowered, in my opinion. I take exception to the way in which changes are made between versions, because they appear not to have any rhyme or reason.
Maybe maverick autoheal needs turning down a tad, but otherwise I really don't see a problem with them. I have not seen any game that has been decided because mav's were overpowered.
So to come along and argue that Cadyr can't balance AA and that Mavs should be removed because he can't balance them strikes me as the position of someone who got pwned by a swarm of mavs.
There are many many other units that have been tweaked over and over again in the quest for perfect balance, but this doens't mean they should be removed - flashes & gators are a good example of this.
Secondly, to suggest that the 'proper, correct' way to balance a game is to change one thing at a time andf that Cadyr just 'messes around with numbers' is pretty insulting to the guy who's spent a considerable amount of his own free time and effort working on it.
Given that AA is arguably the most balanced and certainly the most played mod for Spring, to come along and strart spouting off that it's all being done wrong just doesn't go down well. Then when ppl explain this, you start accusing everyone of being 'Cadyr fanboys' and generally being arrogant.
Well the fact is, yes, I AM A CADYR FANBOY. You know why? Because I have a lot of fucking respect for people that do things in their own free time for the benefit of other people. This goes equally for the spring developers, btw. But that doesn't mean I blindly follow them. But when I feel the product is improving every iteration, then yes, I'm going to defend it because I don't want to see it ruined.
So to come along and argue that Cadyr can't balance AA and that Mavs should be removed because he can't balance them strikes me as the position of someone who got pwned by a swarm of mavs.
There are many many other units that have been tweaked over and over again in the quest for perfect balance, but this doens't mean they should be removed - flashes & gators are a good example of this.
Secondly, to suggest that the 'proper, correct' way to balance a game is to change one thing at a time andf that Cadyr just 'messes around with numbers' is pretty insulting to the guy who's spent a considerable amount of his own free time and effort working on it.
Given that AA is arguably the most balanced and certainly the most played mod for Spring, to come along and strart spouting off that it's all being done wrong just doesn't go down well. Then when ppl explain this, you start accusing everyone of being 'Cadyr fanboys' and generally being arrogant.
Well the fact is, yes, I AM A CADYR FANBOY. You know why? Because I have a lot of fucking respect for people that do things in their own free time for the benefit of other people. This goes equally for the spring developers, btw. But that doesn't mean I blindly follow them. But when I feel the product is improving every iteration, then yes, I'm going to defend it because I don't want to see it ruined.