You support Bush?

mehere101 · Post by **mehere101** » 12 Oct 2006, 04:43

I miss the rhino party...

Lindir The Green · Post by **Lindir The Green** » 12 Oct 2006, 04:51

I am completely against Bush because:

-He is a very very conservative Republican (I would support John McCain.) Being a very very conservative Republican means a lot of stuff, which I'll get to below.
-He is for drilling in the Alaska National Wildlife Refuge. While I know skyrocketing oil prices will make it happen eventually, I am completely against everybody who supports it. Hopefully we can delay drilling until oil isn't as useful anymore, and so it becomes unneccesary.
-He is against signing the Kyoto agreement, because "China didn't sign it." I would think we could do better than China. Apparently not with Bush in charge.
-He invaded Iraq because he claimed the it had "Weapons of Mass Destruction." Well, actually, it didn't. Oops. I guess now we're fighting for Freedom now. Or is it Democracy. Or maybe against Evil, which seems to be defined as Muslims who want us out of their homeland. And don't give me BS about how we were fighting against a corrupt regime. There are many many more corrupt regimes, but Iraq was the one with oil.
-His invasion of Iraq diverted troops from Afganistan, which is now being taken over by the Taliban, yet again. The Taliban openly harbor Terrorists.
-North Korea actually does have Weapons of Mass Destruction, and they are working on missles to deliver them to vulnerable targets. But of course we are going to be diplomatic with them, instead of striking them so hard they will not be able to strike back. Bush needs to read Enders Game. And Iran, which also harbors terrorists, is openly working on enriching Uranium. That's a scary thought. A single nuke that slips through our nets could kill... a lot of people, as well as collapsing our economy yet again.
-Bush supports interrogation techniques that are against the Geneva convention, and that HAVE BEEN PROVEN TO NOT PROVIDE USEFUL INTELLIGENCE.
-He's from Texas
-He is against Stem Cell Research.
-He is completely Pro Life. Well, I'm also Pro Life, but not in the same sense of Bush. I think Life is a good thing, but I also think that it should be the mother's decision whether or not to have a baby.
-His stupid No Child Left Behind act relys on standardised testing, and punishes schools with low test scores. These are the schools in poor areas, which need the most funding.
-He's like a tax n' spend Democrat, except for he's more like a spend n' spend republican, or a cut taxes for the rich n' spend republican. And his spending is for stuff like "Faith Based Initiatives." And now we have a huge budget deficit.
-Other reasons to do with being a really really conservative Republican from Texas

Decimator · Post by **Decimator** » 12 Oct 2006, 04:53

-Bush is not a conservative.

Lindir The Green · Post by **Lindir The Green** » 12 Oct 2006, 05:05

If you listen to Bush himself, yes.

LathanStanley · Post by **LathanStanley** » 12 Oct 2006, 05:08

Lindir The Green wrote:If you listen to Bush himself, yes.

do you even remember listening to a president OTHER than bush??

Decimator · Post by **Decimator** » 12 Oct 2006, 05:23

Lindir The Green wrote:I am completely against Bush because:

-He is a very very conservative Republican (I would support John McCain.) Being a very very conservative Republican means a lot of stuff, which I'll get to below.

-He isn't conservative, and saying that he is because of who is around him is like saying that Lieberman is far left because he's in the Democratic party

Lindir The Green wrote:-He is for drilling in the Alaska National Wildlife Refuge. While I know skyrocketing oil prices will make it happen eventually, I am completely against everybody who supports it. Hopefully we can delay drilling until oil isn't as useful anymore, and so it becomes unneccesary.

-It's a freaking cold desert, and not only that, an oil spill kills off plants for two years and then acts as fertilizer after it breaks down.

Lindir The Green wrote:-He is against signing the Kyoto agreement, because "China didn't sign it." I would think we could do better than China. Apparently not with Bush in charge.

-Kyoto would destroy our economy for a crackpot theory.

Lindir The Green wrote:-He invaded Iraq because he claimed the it had "Weapons of Mass Destruction." Well, actually, it didn't. Oops. I guess now we're fighting for Freedom now. Or is it Democracy. Or maybe against Evil, which seems to be defined as Muslims who want us out of their homeland. And don't give me BS about how we were fighting against a corrupt regime. There are many many more corrupt regimes, but Iraq was the one with oil.

-Flypaper

Lindir The Green wrote:-His invasion of Iraq diverted troops from Afganistan, which is now being taken over by the Taliban, yet again. The Taliban openly harbor Terrorists.

-I think we should project our full force there, destroy all of the poppy fields, and then the taliban would have no money.

Lindir The Green wrote:-North Korea actually does have Weapons of Mass Destruction, and they are working on missles to deliver them to vulnerable targets. But of course we are going to be diplomatic with them, instead of striking them so hard they will not be able to strike back. Bush needs to read Enders Game. And Iran, which also harbors terrorists, is openly working on enriching Uranium. That's a scary thought. A single nuke that slips through our nets could kill... a lot of people, as well as collapsing our economy yet again.

-We're probably going to let Japan and China do the work here.

Lindir The Green wrote:-Bush supports interrogation techniques that are against the Geneva convention, and that HAVE BEEN PROVEN TO NOT PROVIDE USEFUL INTELLIGENCE.

-*cough* http://hotair.com/archives/2006/09/20/b ... e-tactics/

Lindir The Green wrote:-He's from Texas

-Should I even bother?

Lindir The Green wrote:-He is against embyonic Stem Cell Research.

-Fixed

Lindir The Green wrote:-He is completely Pro Life. Well, I'm also Pro Life, but not in the same sense of Bush. I think Life is a good thing, but I also think that it should be the mother's decision whether or not to have a baby.

-He doesn't believe that anyone should have the right to choose whether an innocent person lives or dies.

Lindir The Green wrote:-His stupid No Child Left Behind act relys on standardised testing, and punishes schools with low test scores. These are the schools in poor areas, which need the most funding.

-I'd abolish public schools altogether, myself.

Lindir The Green wrote:-He's like a tax n' spend Democrat, except for he's more like a spend n' spend republican, or a cut taxes for the rich n' spend republican. And his spending is for stuff like "Faith Based Initiatives." And now we have a huge budged deficit.

-And yet our debt is shrinking, funny that.

Lindir The Green wrote:-Other reasons to do with being a really really conservative Republican from Texas[/list]

-Not helping your argument any.

Neddie · Post by **Neddie** » 12 Oct 2006, 06:02

Bush is not a functional Conservative. Look at his policies. They effectively follow neither Conservative or Liberal ideals, and indeed have many of the negatives inherent in both.

The argument can be made that he is a social Conservative or Reactionary, but that is only half the designation.

Neddie · Post by **Neddie** » 12 Oct 2006, 06:04

Lathan, Democrats have taken us into and prosecuted as many unfavourable initiatives as Republicans. Gross inaccuracy will not be tolerated.

I am a proponent of Proportional Representation.

jackalope · Post by **jackalope** » 12 Oct 2006, 06:43

I just read this whole thread and now I am going to go eat a gun. k thx bye.

Zoombie · Post by **Zoombie** » 12 Oct 2006, 06:51

Have fun with that...

pintle · Post by **pintle** » 12 Oct 2006, 07:27

USA is in biggest budget deficit of its history. Bush spends much money on guns to kill people working for governments his predecessors installed. Not only installed, but trained, equipped, financed and installed.

Decimator in my experience the majority of scientific studies have a conclusion contrary to "crackpot theory" on the role carbon emission have in global climate change.

Beyone the glaringly obvious warmongering-oil-baron "which state is wales in?" stuff to hate about bush:

-Allows the use of depleted Uranium munitions
-Allows torture and "extraordinary rendition" flights by teh CIA
-Allows cluster bombing of civillians (fallujah)
-Allows military actions against the free press (al jazheera in baghdad)
-Opposition to the bolivarian revolution http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolivarian_Revolution
-Response to Katrina

could go on, tbh i reckons he bought the '04 elections through diebold, as bigsteve already hinted.

Argue as much abstract abortion rhetoric you want, but find me a more direct way of killin innocents than firing cluster bombs into a city you stopped people leaving before you expect me to take you seriously

LOrDo · Post by **LOrDo** » 12 Oct 2006, 07:40

God dammit. Was this thread a huge mistake on my part?

BigSteve · Post by **BigSteve** » 12 Oct 2006, 08:52

LathanStanley wrote:
BigSteve wrote:Lathan, how can you possibly associate George with having moral values?
he cheated his way into the white house for godsakes! twice most likely after introducing his easily hackable electronic voting system. ^^

Ive even seen a clip of him on TV saying " I wanna be remembered as a warring president, I've always got war on ma mind"
I mean come on, hes a bloody neanderthal.
thats the difference between a Republican and a Democrat.

We BOTH want $
We BOTH want security
We BOTH want infulence
We BOTH want family
We BOTH want to live
We BOTH want the US on top
We BOTH don't want our allies to perish
We BOTH don't want our enemies with nukes...

the diffference, Republicans will fight to make them happen, not sit around in the freakin white house and whine to congress and babble on the telephone like a woman.

Democrats "look" good cause they don't ever "do" bad things, but they never "do" good things either...

Republicans do do VERY "good" things too, they just get ruidicliously criticized when their intentions backfire.

you can vote for 1, a sitter, one who "talks the talk"
or you can vote for 2, warring president, one who, "walks the walk."

I take option two, Republican.

The KEY word here is VOTE ^^
youre under the impression America has been a democracy for the last 8 years Lathan, the sad thing is mate the majority of your country didnt want the warring meat head as their leader, and when talking about bush I use the term leader very lightly ^^
Anyway maybe if you lived in New Orleans youd have a different perspective on his supposed pro family policies and his "moral values"
When Katrina hit did he walk the walk then? nope, he probably went fishing.

KDR_11k · Post by **KDR_11k** » 12 Oct 2006, 09:11

Most conservatives refer to the Republican party as "neo-cons" since they do not represent conservative ideas.

A conservative does not increase spending like that. A sane politician does not drop taxes while increasing spending.

And I love how especially Bush supporters talk about their Second Amendment being necessary to overthrow the govt in case of tyranny but why the hell aren't they doing anything now? Tyranny is acceptable as long as it's by the guy you want in charge?

Cicero wrote:That “some sort of free-state” is the necessary condition of a noble and honourable existence; and that it is the last calamity for a people to permanently renounce this ideal and to substitute for it the slave’s ideal of a good master.

Forboding Angel · Post by **Forboding Angel** » 12 Oct 2006, 10:11

LathanStanley wrote:I support him like a brother... he puts moral values, family, and security over tedius crap like money.

lol, his ability to speak publically.. lol still sucks.. but who cares.. he's a good guy...

+1 for truth.

Forboding Angel · Post by **Forboding Angel** » 12 Oct 2006, 10:15

BigSteve wrote:Lathan, how can you possibly associate George with having moral values?
he cheated his way into the white house for godsakes! twice most likely after introducing his easily hackable electronic voting system. ^^

Ive even seen a clip of him on TV saying " I wanna be remembered as a warring president, I've always got war on ma mind"
I mean come on, hes a bloody neanderthal.

Ungh, uninformed

. Every time a republican president has been elected in the past 20 years the democrats have cried foul. Get your british self out of american politics, and stop posting crap.

BTW WMD's WERE found in IRAQ. Most news agencies failed to mention that. CNN did a very small piece on it.

Forboding Angel · Post by **Forboding Angel** » 12 Oct 2006, 10:26

BTW tax cuts boost the economy massively and increase government revenue because people spend a LOT more money.

This is true all throughout history.

Fircking talking points. Can someone kill this thread already? FFS, it's irritating seeing political discussion on a game forum.

Kixxe · Post by **Kixxe** » 12 Oct 2006, 12:50

Forboding Angel wrote: BTW WMD's WERE found in IRAQ. Most news agencies failed to mention that. CNN did a very small piece on it.

Hahaha, link?

SwiftSpear · Post by **SwiftSpear** » 12 Oct 2006, 14:31

Decimator wrote:
Lindir The Green wrote:-He is completely Pro Life. Well, I'm also Pro Life, but not in the same sense of Bush. I think Life is a good thing, but I also think that it should be the mother's decision whether or not to have a baby.
-He doesn't believe that anyone should have the right to choose whether an innocent person lives or dies.

Anyone except him and the American soldiers in Iraq that is.

pintle · Post by **pintle** » 12 Oct 2006, 15:25

Forbodbing, post ANY proof of WMD being found in Iraq before making such sweeping, insulting statements. If they were found (and not moved to Syria before "operation Iraqi freedom" (HARHAR at least Bush understands irony) the you would do well to read about how they got there.

And telling Steve to get his british self out of american politics....xenophobic for a start, but also: Get your war mongering president and meat headed USMC out of the free world!

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